General Info: Lagoon Comfort

[mjuneau]

Hi all,

I am kinda new here, so I'm not sure if this is a question or a statement.

I have been looking at lagoons for a while now and generally like them, my plan is cruise for years I hope...

there has been threads about the corners of the furniture not being safe, this is not my concern

so... if I were to cruise / live on the boat (with the wife) there does not seem to be a good place to lay out like on a couch or comfy chair?

or good place to lay down to watch TV, I would not want to watch TV in bed.

don't get me wrong I still like it and would be first my choice

this applies to 380 39 400 42 and 450 as these are the only ones I could maybe afford.

1. I would change is in the owner side in the where there is the desk and bench this should be a couch to laydown and read / TV.

2. the eating area in the salon should be more ... more cozy

I'm sure I'm just being picky.


to any owners what do you think about the layout of the new lagoons for live aboard , lets use the new 42 as an example as it is mid range of the smaller cats?

let me know

Mike

[tuskie]

Mike,mate! Easy fix. Go on board a prospective model and lounge around. See how it feels.

We have the earlier 400, not "S2", without the "improved" sharp corners on the furniture. No bruises. I'm told that after a few "ouches", you learn to live with the new setup.

All models, except the 380 have non- curved saloon sitees. Nice, rectangular cushions. These are great to lie down straight on, watch TV or sit around the table at. Real cruisers even use them as passage berths; great to snooze on while the wife's on the helm. The table is interchangeable with a small coffee table if you wish for more lounging room. A great, versatile setup.

As an eating area, the saloon is fine for up to 8 people, 6 comfortably.
Outside is good for a couple more. If this cockpit area is too exposed, get the full drop down clears to enclose this area. We though we would put these into storage during our tropical travels, but we find them great for wind and rain protection. If it gets hot, we roll them up. If it gets cool, windy or rains, we drop them down. Very cosy.

As for the new 42, not a good base point, as no one has been aboard one yet. Still under construction. I'm sure it will be comfortable and you would have no challenges watching TV, reading or lounging! Here's to comfortable cruising on a Lagoon!

[D&D]

Originally Posted by tuskie

Here's to comfortable cruising on a Lagoon!

+2!

...and to cruising in comfort on many other vessels as well!!

[mjuneau]

Originally Posted by tuskie

Mike,mate! Easy fix. Go on board a prospective model and lounge around. See how it feels.

We have the earlier 400, not "S2", without the "improved" sharp corners on the furniture. No bruises. I'm told that after a few "ouches", you learn to live with the new setup.

All models, except the 380 have non- curved saloon sitees. Nice, rectangular cushions. These are great to lie down straight on, watch TV or sit around the table at. Real cruisers even use them as passage berths; great to snooze on while the wife's on the helm. The table is interchangeable with a small coffee table if you wish for more lounging room. A great, versatile setup.

As an eating area, the saloon is fine for up to 8 people, 6 comfortably.
Outside is good for a couple more. If this cockpit area is too exposed, get the full drop down clears to enclose this area. We though we would put these into storage during our tropical travels, but we find them great for wind and rain protection. If it gets hot, we roll them up. If it gets cool, windy or rains, we drop them down. Very cosy.

As for the new 42, not a good base point, as no one has been aboard one yet. Still under construction. I'm sure it will be comfortable and you would have no challenges watching TV, reading or lounging! Here's to comfortable cruising on a Lagoon!

I guess what I am picturing is for 2 people and sometime guests, it needs to be more of a home, because I want to live aboard - see picture I edited


changes I would make to the new 42:

1. both aft heads, move the door to hallway with sliding door
2. remove both forward heads and replace with other uses
3. forward head owner side change to pantry and more storage and extra freezer
4. forward head not owner side change to laundry room and more storage
5. forward cabin owner side convert to a Den / TV room / office /single bed


let me know what you think

[tuskie]

Mike, your customisation would work well on this model.

However... I would flinch at buying a new boat and start to cut things up. Depreciation in first few years on cost price is steep on any new catamaran, and would be a lot worse if it was "modified". If you plan to keep it a long time, no worries.

Why not just buy an Owners' Version and try to keep it as original as possible? I haven't been on board this model, but would be surprised if you needed extra storage space. The 3 heads on this version is one too many in my opinion, but it is fairly standard in production boats of this size. We find that we spend most of the time "up stairs" even at anchor. We cook, do maintenance, read, fish, socialise, do maintenance, watch TV, eat and do maintenance up top. Down in the hulls is for sleeping, doing downstairs maintenance and using the heads. Glad our galley isn't down there too. So no need IMHO for study or sofa downstairs.

There will be a place for a washing machine so no need to turn a head into a laundry unless you wish to take in washing from other cruisers. (Joke!) The third (port forward) head can be used as storage or, as is not uncommon in my part of the world, to a brew house/ distillery. One cruising friend manufactures quite drinkable beer, spirits AND wine from the one converted head and forward cabin. All on removable shelving with the original equipment still (pun intended) in place. He needs a hobby and the fish aren't always biting.

It just goes to show what is possible on board a good cruising cat. Try that one on one of those sleek racey show ponies!

[mjuneau]

Originally Posted by tuskie

Mike, your customisation would work well on this model.

Why not just buy an Owners' Version and try to keep it as original as possible? I haven't been on board this model, but would be surprised if you needed extra storage space. The 3 heads on this version is one too many in my opinion, but it is fairly standard in production boats of this size. We find that we spend most of the time "up stairs" even at anchor. We cook, do maintenance, read, fish, socialise, do maintenance, watch TV, eat and do maintenance up top. Down in the hulls is for sleeping, doing downstairs maintenance and using the heads. Glad our galley isn't down there too. So no need IMHO for study or sofa downstairs.

the owners version is what I first was thinking but seems to be too much head (bathroom) space wasted

also my plan / dream is to live on the boat and travel the world for at least 10y.

the reason to have the extra room is I would be living wit the wife, don't get me wrong I love my wife BUT she / me likes quiet separate time , she likes to read I like TV etc...

I would not modify a new boat unless I was sure and only after a year, or if I won the loto

mike

[StuM]

Originally Posted by mjuneau

the owners version is what I first was thinking but seems to be too much head (bathroom) space wasted

also my plan / dream is to live on the boat and travel the world for at least 10y.

the reason to have the extra room is I would be living wit the wife, don't get me wrong I love my wife BUT she / me likes quiet separate time , she likes to read I like TV etc...

I would not modify a new boat unless I was sure and only after a year, or if I won the loto

mike

How does your wife feel about it. Two of the selling points for her when we went for the owners version Belize (which we live aboard) were the ample shower and head space plus the couch and small desk there which allows quiet separate time.

[mjuneau]

Originally Posted by StuM

How does your wife feel about it. Two of the selling points for her when we went for the owners version Belize (which we live aboard) were the ample shower and head space plus the couch and small desk there which allows quiet separate time.

I agree that a good size shower is important! the only reason I used the 42 as an example is the aft head seems big enough to accommodate my idea ...

would like to see some real pictures / video when available

Mike