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Old 27-08-2018, 19:01   #106
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

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Marine water heaters that are powered by electric elements or engine coolant, or both, are readily available from many sources, e.g.:


https://www.defender.com/category.js...|51&id=2234308
The three gallon on demand model has current draw of 30 amps. Guess that's OK if you have large solar array and take showers only in the middle of sunny afternoon.

To be quite clear, I can't see getting to the point of no propane appliances. Our primary cooking is propane BBQ. If you have that, then propane on demand hot water makes sense. (I've used one for a dozen years and worked great.). Refrigeration and watermaker draw on the solar panels takes priority. I can't see moving other devices to that source to compete. Especially when they work so well propane gas driven.
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"A great thing"? Does ANYBODY actually PREFER cooking on an electric stove over a good gas stove? I certainly don't. I wouldn't have an electric stove in a house, and I sure wouldn't have on on my boat for the same reasons...

I prefer the electric induction plate to gas. More efficient, much less stray heat in the galley, achieves higher temperatures for wok cooking / deep frying than our propane stove and is just as responsive as (if not more so than) gas when adjusting heat level.
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Old 27-08-2018, 19:24   #108
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Thanks for that!

At first I thought you were joking, then I Googled and found this:
https://www.ebay.com/p/True-Inductio...Mat/1237387086

Seems pricy my guess is because they market for Induction.

I would prefer a rectangular sheet to fit the whole 4 element surface as standard use even at anchor.

Any suggestions with links?

I built an adjustable slotted rail and grid system to hold pots when underway, but we don't usually cook when rough...just reheat via microwave


Silicone mat makes induction less efficient, the best way is the grid system. Also, if you overheat the silicone mat it gets a wave in it that is annoying. So keep the temp not too hot and live with less efficiency and reduced pan back on the cooktop recognition.
I don’t use one, with a grid you don’t need it.
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Old 27-08-2018, 22:51   #109
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

I'm in the propane camp currently for the following: stovetop (oven is electric), hot water, refrigerator/freezer, small bedroom zone heater.

However, the one place the electric galley outsines is the lack of a need to go get another fuel. Propane adapters aside, it's just easier to use your main fuel and/or solar to run your galley.

I chose propane for the lighter weight of the system. It's not more convenient.
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Old 27-08-2018, 23:21   #110
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

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We’ve been all electric for six years, it’s easy with a Nuwave infrared oven and induction cooktop.
Hi Ken, I was going to start another thread about an alternative to Microwave ovens as here in the Philippines, Shore power is 220v 60Hz but my invertor and Gen is on 240v 50Hz. (So I can't buy a 50Hz here)

Our Microwave oven is generally just used for quick heating of leftovers, but not convinced its the healthiest way to treat food.

How do you like the infrared oven and does anyone have other suggestions of a boat friendly substitute for using Microwave?
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Old 28-08-2018, 00:08   #111
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

we have installed a smaller convection oven, it is 15 cm less in height, but same size (width and depth) as a standard european kittchen appliance (60 cm grid), it fits in the original eno compartment if you do some changes (cut out the front to size, adjust the inner spacers and cut out on the back plate to allow the extra depth (3..5 cm). It does not develop heat on the back, so it is safe to let it open, and it is better for the air flow.
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Old 28-08-2018, 00:13   #112
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

Regarding propane, you must let test the installation in many countries yearly or every second year by an gas certified mechanic, you must replace all flex hoses and regulators every 10 years for safety reason, otherwise you dont get certified.

Many cruisers simply do not do that, the hoses become porous, the regulators drift and you could run into trouble with yout propane gas. It is much more maintanance needed to stay safe. That is one of the reason weve got rid of it.
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This is the oven we fit in replacing the ENO propane thing. Much better, deeper and bigger. Click image for larger version

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Any links to these products??

The oven looks especially interesting to me.
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Any links to these products??

The oven looks especially interesting to me.
Neff CCR1522N

https://www.neff-home.com/de/produkt...efen/C15CR22N0

https://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_no...kofen+ccr1522n
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Re: Has the all-electric galley come of age?

This induction hob has some interesting sensor features

https://youtu.be/LoXgrtLFDcQ
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For cooking at sea on induction you need 3 things.
1 a 2 element induction cooktop with knobs not touch controls. Touch controls are for kitchens.
2 a grid system for holding the pots and pans. Gimbals don’t work in strong storms, grid system does.
3 something like a Panasonic combination fan oven,grill,microwave which will cook perfectly a 1 kilo chicken in 30 mins using minimal power.
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For cooking at sea on induction you need 3 things.
1 a 2 element induction cooktop with knobs not touch controls. Touch controls are for kitchens.
2 a grid system for holding the pots and pans. Gimbals don’t work in strong storms, grid system does.
3 something like a Panasonic combination fan oven,grill,microwave which will cook perfectly a 1 kilo chicken in 30 mins using minimal power.
Touch control is great, easy cleaning, nothing to break, that stands out. Even on the oven, all-touch UI is the best you can have. No holding stuff on a cat, just a thin silicon mat. Two burner in not enough for the Admiral, she needs at least 3 or better four.

Also a vario- zone is preferable to fixed heat zones. There is no difference to a real kitchen appliance demand. A sub-size convection oven will do the trick and much more, microwave just takes to much space in the oven, not use it at all in real life, we have a separate one and we will get rid of it next season.

Of course, if you a convenience food gourmet, that cannot cook, but just nuke deep-frozen pre-packed industrial food, a microwave is a must have.
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We are not ready to go all electric, but we did get a small InstaPot as a backup cooking alternative in case we ever run out of propane in a remote anchorage. At least that was the idea. It turns out the InstaPot is now one of our main cooking sources. Low energy use. Doesn’t heat up the galley. Very versatile. We use it about 3x a week.
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