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**Dockhead** · 20-11-2021, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Tingum

How in the world can any idiot in a yacht not see an aircraft carrier and get the F###! Out of the way!

By being asleep below instead of keeping watch?

chrisr · 20-11-2021, 12:31

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Originally Posted by Tingum

How in the world can any idiot in a yacht not see an aircraft carrier and get the F###! Out of the way!

obviously by not keeping a proper lookout. that is a gimme

but there is a far higher onus on a fully crewed state of the art warship to detect a medium size yacht at a reasonable distance...rather than moments before a collision as in this case.

iow they both failed...but imho the failure of a professional crew is far far worse than the failure of a solo amateur. the fact that the professional crew was a warship - supposedly the 'best of the best' just makes it worse & unforgivable

cheers,

**JPA Cate** · 20-11-2021, 13:01

^^^^

You're saying that one can expect a sailor to act like a wafi, but not people on a warship?

Hmmm.

Ann

chrisr · 20-11-2021, 13:53

pardon my ignorance (i'm only a sailor) but i'm not entirely sure what is a 'wafi' ?

but i think i get the drift...and (without excusing the failure by said yotie) the answer is most definitely 100% YES...i believe we are all entitled to expect a higher standard of performance from the team of 2000 highly trained & equipped naval crew than fm a solo yotie

don't feel this is unreasonable

cheers,

**Adelie** · 20-11-2021, 16:10

WAFI: Wind Assisted F'ing Idiot

Sailboat with a stupid Skipper, or possibly all sailboats, depends on who's using the term.

chrisr · 20-11-2021, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Adelie

WAFI: Wind Assisted F'ing Idiot

Sailboat with a stupid Skipper, or possibly all sailboats, depends on who's using the term.

hahahaha...new to me but love it. thankyou both ladies

cheers,

**StuM** · 20-11-2021, 17:12

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Originally Posted by chrisr

hahahaha...new to me but love it. thankyou both ladies

cheers,

I made the same assumption once upon a time, by Adelie is the boat name, not the poster's name.

chrisr · 20-11-2021, 17:24

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Originally Posted by StuM

I made the same assumption once upon a time, by Adelie is the boat name, not the poster's name.

thanks for that...a mystery then

cheers,

**Jim Cate** · 20-11-2021, 20:18

Adelie is a nice person, but he ain't no lady!

Jim

**Jim Cate** · 20-11-2021, 20:25

While I have no personal knowledge of such things, we are frequently advised here on CF that merely obtaining a skipper's ticked of minimal tonnage will cause you to be held to a higher level of responsibility in a court situation. If that is true, it should be FAR truer that the crew of a major navy's major capitol ship would be held to the ultimate level of responsibility and seamanship.

I add my voice to those who are aghast at the watchkeeping on the carrier. However, the solo sailor was clearly failing in his duties at even the most basic level.

A kinda unbelievable event IMO, but there it is!

Jim

chrisr · 20-11-2021, 21:17

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Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Adelie is a nice person, but he ain't no lady!

Jim

thanks jim

humble apologies to Adelie for my error

cheers,

RaymondR · 20-11-2021, 22:48

If they were on exercises and had a lot of equipment on and tween decks they may be fairly limited in the amount of dodging they can do.

**Jim Cate** · 20-11-2021, 22:59

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Originally Posted by RaymondR

If they were on exercises and had a lot of equipment on and tween decks they may be fairly limited in the amount of dodging they can do.

Possibly true, but a liberal application of five blasts from their doubtless massive whistle just might have averted the collision, even if they couldn't dodge themselves. How come no hoots?

Jim