Dismasted by an aircraft carrier

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by DMF Sailing

which reminds me...whatever the conclusion is reached regarding fault in this incident, the captain of the aircraft carrier gets reprimanded for even letting this happen to the flagship of a powerful nation's navy, right?

Absolutely especially when it looks like the aircraft carrier approached the yacht from aft.

[RaymondR]

Naah, we need to give up on this Colregs nonsense and allow every country to write their own regulations and nave a legal right to only comply with them.

You gotta be joking, there's one set for everyone so that we can all learn them and have a chance to comply with them, even the military.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

The “ Cole” clearly also needed some “ retraining “

You know the Cole was tied up alongside at the time, don't you?

[double u]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

You know the Cole was tied up alongside at the time, don't you?

...which makes the need to maintain a "secure perimeter" (or whatever the Navy's phrase is for not letting any vessel come alongside before being sure of it's intention) unnecessary...in Yemen of all places!!!

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by double u

...which makes the need to maintain a "secure perimeter" (or whatever the Navy's phrase is for not letting any vessel come alongside before being sure of it's intention) unnecessary...in Yemen of all places!!!

Before 9/11, and not in a conflict zone. Local merchants frequently come alongside ships to sell their wares. Cole was the first out-of-the-blue terrorist attack on a USN ship - the USN and other navies have learned from that, and now have force protection measures in place.

[double u]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

Before 9/11, and not in a conflict zone.-Yemen???- Local merchants frequently come alongside ships to sell their wares. Cole was the first out-of-the-blue terrorist attack on a USN ship - the USN and other navies have learned from that, and now have force protection measures in place.

...an excuse maybe for our "forest"-"Navy" (we had a, now decommissioned, gunboat on the Danube!), but for a battlehardened one?

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by double u

not in a conflict zone.-Yemen???...an excuse maybe for our "forest"-"Navy" (we had a, now decommissioned, gunboat on the Danube!), but for a battlehardened one?

Go on - tell us what conflict Yemen was involved in, in the year 2000.
As for the rest of your post - is it in code? Stream-of-consciousness rambling has me confused.

[double u]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by double u

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemeni_Civil_War

Over in 2 months - in 1994. 2000 saw a relatively stable government in place. On the main street of half the world's shipping.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

You know the Cole was tied up alongside at the time, don't you?

yes and it let a vessel approach it

the CdG carrier essentially crashed into the yacht not the other way around

[double u]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

Over in 2 months - in 1994. 2000 saw a relatively stable government in place. On the main street of half the world's shipping.

3 visits: 1/87, 1/93 & 1/99: before each visit some sort of uprising/rebellion/"war" - bulletholes everywhere. Been there, seen it..

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

yes and it let a vessel approach it

If the sailors on the Cole had opened fire on all arabs driving around the harbour in boats, there still would have been a "USS Cole incident" but it would have had a whole different connotation. And a bunch of US sailors would have faced a firing squad.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by double u

3 visits: 1/87, 1/93 & 1/99: before each visit some sort of uprising/rebellion/"war" - bulletholes everywhere. Been there, seen it..

And yet history has not recorded any of these so-called "uprisings." And having read "Voyage of the Northern Magic", who were berthed across the harbour from the Cole, I don't recall the author describing Aden as being riddled with bullet holes. That would be a shocking oversight, as her narratives otherwise painted vivid pictures.

Perhaps your memory is faulty; it was a long time ago. Anyway this was a diversion, but it serves no purpose, and it's boring. I'm done - out!

[Cadence]

How did this even get to a conversation about the USS Cole?

[CarinaPDX]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

And yet history has not recorded any of these so-called "uprisings." And having read "Voyage of the Northern Magic", who were berthed across the harbour from the Cole, I don't recall the author describing Aden as being riddled with bullet holes. That would be a shocking oversight, as her narratives otherwise painted vivid pictures.

Perhaps your memory is faulty; it was a long time ago. Anyway this was a diversion, but it serves no purpose, and it's boring. I'm done - out!

Oddly enough you choose to believe what you do because you haven't read about it - obviously if you haven't read about it then it couldn't possibly be true. But the guy that has been there three times couldn't be right because you believe differently. Really???? I have read about it and can confirm his recollections. So instead of not believing him perhaps you should do some more reading?

Greg