Dismasted by an aircraft carrier

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by garyfdl

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the poster who made that comment was being a bit facetious.

I think everyone understands that carriers don't take half the ocean literally. The poster's implication was that carriers are incapable of manoeuvring so as to avoid collision - which is patently incorrect. All I sought was to correct that misperception, for the benefit of those who might not know.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by Chris31415

The good news is no injuries.

"The Charles de Gaulle belatedly detected a sailboat of around ten meters at a very short distance, shortly before 07:30," the report of the French authorities say. "Despite an emergency maneuver to avoid this sailboat and in the absence of its reaction, a collision occurred around 07:30 between the sailboat and the hull of the Charles de Gaulle."

https://www.businessinsider.com/sail...gaulle-2021-11

Looks like a French skipper is going to lose his command.

[double u]

Originally Posted by garyfdl

10 tons, 20,000 lbs, on a 10 meter (32') sailboat?

I'm no expert on displacement vs payload, but...

Pretty sure that makes it a submarine.

so make it five! it doesn't have to win a race, you know!
(& I guess even 10t is possible, placed low,...-
& how big was the charge that hit USS Cole?)

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

I think it’s self evident that firstly the sailboat didn’t take any action to avoid collision whilst the carrier tried.

But my point is no sailboat given an option should be anywhere near where there Is a risk of collision with a carrier !!! This has nothing to do with COLRegs. Common sense says stay the F out of the way.

Yep, and it's a self evident truth that any other action indicates an inadequately developed sense of self survival.

[Tillikum]

Power yields to sail, but sail is wise not to press the point.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by double u

& how big was the charge that hit USS Cole?)

Around 600 lbs of C4 give or take, as I recall.

[Lodesman]

Originally Posted by Tillikum

Power yields to sail, but sail is wise not to press the point.

It hasn't been said in the articles, other than the carrier was at sea for training, but since training for a carrier probably involves flying ops, the carrier might have been RAM. I think this possibility has been suggested already.

[bensolomon]

Sailing in the Chesapeake, there are big boats constantly, and some of them come out of the channel. It's a constant effort to look 360 every 15 minutes or so.

On one particular passage down bay then out to the Atlantic, I had three crew on board. I gave sign out, and went bow to make dinner. I had looked around and there were no vessels in the area prior to going down below. As I'm cooking I begin to hear a strange hum (we were steaming at the time). I initially didn't think much of it, but it continued, and was getting louder. I went back up to look around and we were dangerously close to a freighter. Nobody in the cockpit saw or heard it. I was shocked!

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

You really don't have much to contribute to this discussion, do you?

LOL Pot: meet Kettle.

[goboatingnow]

Couple of things.

We don’t know what “ detected at a short distance “ actually means.

This was not confined waters 40 nm south of Hyres , this is effectively open seas.

The sailing boat was motor sailing so effectively a mobo.

The point is visibility was good , visually this type of formation would be visible for miles.

The obvious conclusion is the single hander was not on watch for a considerable time or even worse kept sailing into danger.

A sailing boat should never get into a COLRegs situation with a large ship in the first place unless the circumstances , like crossing a busy TSS , force it so.

I’ve adjusted course 5-10 Nm away from large ships to simply remove any ounce of doubt.
I’ve been thanked over the radio as it meant they didn’t have to power up a second steering motor.

We’re doing this for pleasure we have time on our hands.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Tillikum

Power yields to sail, but sail is wise not to press the point.

He was motor sailing

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by Lodesman

All I sought was to correct that misperception, for the benefit of those who might not know.

Might be one misconception best left intact... (IMHO)

[garyfdl]

Originally Posted by double u

how big was the charge that hit USS Cole?)

Well technically? Not big enough (fortunately).

[belizesailor]

Hull in tact and skipper not dead...Id say he got exceptionally lucky!

Skipper was below decks so clearly not maintaining a lookout.

These incidents of uber high tech vessels colliding with other vessels is mystifying. With all that tech and a full crew. How does this happen?

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by belizesailor

Hull in tact and skipper not dead...Id say he got exceptionally lucky!

Skipper was below decks so clearly not maintaining a lookout.

These incidents of uber high tech vessels colliding with other vessels is mystifying. With all that tech and a full crew. How does this happen?

“Hey did you see that yacht over there “

“Don’t be stupid none will sail near a carrier “

“ no seriously look over there “

“ **** you’re right , he’s going to turn away any minute “ “ we lined up to launch aircraft “

“ you’d think”

Tick tick

“ **** hard to starboard , merde”

That’s my take