Hans Klaar Jailed

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by DeepFrz

I hear Eva Braun thought Adolph was a good guy, in general.

It's said he loved his dog Blondi, right up to the moment he shot her through the head.

[Bergovoy]

woof!!

[Springbok]

In South Africa we have a saying from the Afrikaans language which is "Finished and Klaar" which basically sums this thread up.
Clyde

[paulrack]

Hmm I love all these comments about third world "sad to see a great guy put on trial by the media,convicted by a kangaroo court in a micky mouse country." etc. How many of you have any knowledge of the legal system or have actually been here to study it? Or are you just casting the normal Africa basket case perception that so much of the world seems to have, it does get very boring from the keyboard critics!

[Wand]

Originally Posted by paulrack

Hmm I love all these comments about third world "sad to see a great guy put on trial by the media,convicted by a kangaroo court in a micky mouse country." etc. How many of you have any knowledge of the legal system or have actually been here to study it? Or are you just casting the normal Africa basket case perception that so much of the world seems to have, it does get very boring from the keyboard critics!

Glad to see a South African citizen come out in defence of the realm.

That's not to criticise anyone insisting on the innocence of a person and campaigning against a conviction; that happens everywhere and sometimes it can result in a review and/or pardon.

But deriding South Africa generally and its judicial system in particular is unhelpful and misguided imho.

[Doodles]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but several people here have said he deserted or left his family. I haven't read this anywhere. The newspaper article made the statement ..."he fled the country on his yacht, apparently without his wife or children."

Then atoll made this statement ..."saw hans and katy in tahiti in 2002,he did not seem like a hunted man then,especially in an eu country."

Now to me this sounds like maybe it was prearranged that the wife stayed behind when he fled and they got back together once he was safely away. Seems like the logical thing to do, especially considering how much they moved around. Maybe safer for her as well.

Did I miss something?

[Laidback]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Pelagic... the Indian Ocean is a whole different place to the Pacific and Atlantic... still very much frontier territory and mentality...[/FONT]

This pronouncement merits an award, maybe one of those rare bits of rubbish ?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Laidback

This pronouncement merits an award, maybe one of those rare bits of rubbish ?

LOL... I suppose your an experienced cruiser who's explored the coasts of SA, Mozambique, Somalia, Yemen, the Gulf States, Iran, Pakistan, Madagascar etc.... if so I bow to your superior knowledge.... I have yet to cruise Madagascar and Somalia... the rest I've visited or lived in... fancy a stroll through the streets of Karachi or Aden with me some night...
Considering the paranoia on here about cruising the Caribbean with its 'pirates'....

[Laidback]

Originally Posted by boatman61

LOL... I suppose your an experienced cruiser who's explored the coasts of SA, Mozambique, Somalia, Yemen, the Gulf States, Iran, Pakistan, Madagascar etc.... if so I bow to your superior knowledge.... I

Correct

[atoll]

Originally Posted by Laidback

This pronouncement merits an award, maybe one of those rare bits of rubbish ?

having crossed the indian ocean on numerous occasions,east to west and north to south and vice versa and visiting most of the countries and islands bordering it. i tend to agree with boatman.

in my experiance most cruisers(cowboys) tend to try to transit it as fast as possable hoping not to meet any somalis (indians)........

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Laidback

Correct

Out of curiosity... where did you tie up in Karachi...

[spiritbaer]

Not much wrong with a justice system, that let's you go home for 72 hours after being convicted. Not too many other places in this world that let's you do that without some restriction or a large security deposit.

[atoll]

if i remember correctly it was the same ship,albeit with a different helmsman,who left a lawyer to rot on an island for 25 odd years.
his crime,doing his job.............

[idpnd]

Originally Posted by Palarran

I don't wish it, nor do I think most would. It doesn't take grapefruits either. I would be more inclined to emulate someone who held an honest job, stayed true to their wife, raised their children, provided them a proper education, saved some money, and retired comfortably. Someone like my dad.

"I could be eloquent were I not afraid you fellows had starved your imaginations to feed your bodies. I do not mean to be offensive; it is respectable to have no illusions—and safe—and profitable—and dull. Yet you, too, in your time must have known the intensity of life, that light of glamour created in the shock of trifles, as amazing as the glow of sparks struck from a cold stone—and as short-lived, alas!" Joe Conrad, Lord Jim

Each to their own!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by idpnd

"I could be eloquent were I not afraid you fellows had starved your imaginations to feed your bodies. I do not mean to be offensive; it is respectable to have no illusions—and safe—and profitable—and dull. Yet you, too, in your time must have known the intensity of life, that light of glamour created in the shock of trifles, as amazing as the glow of sparks struck from a cold stone—and as short-lived, alas!" Joe Conrad, Lord Jim

Each to their own!

A damn good read....