HI->Tahiti Dingbats found after 5 months

[CatNewBee]

No, they are only in the devils sea, where they entered uninvited...

[Tetepare]

Somebody should tell them to buy a Freedom next time so they don't have to worry about jury-rigging standing rigging.

And a map. Free on the internet. Not a chart, but better than nothing.

What total snowflakes. Leaving it to others to clean up the mess they make.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Tetepare

Somebody should tell them to buy a Freedom next time so they don't have to worry about jury-rigging standing rigging.

And a map. Free on the internet. Not a chart, but better than nothing.

What total snowflakes. Leaving it to others to clean up the mess they make.

charts are usually available for free download . Not the top of the line but in between a good nav chart and a page out of an atlas.
Btw in one vid clip their GPS nav plotter seemed to be working just fine .

[Don C L]

As a mod I think we are always trying to see things in the most charitable light possible... but also to call out nonsense when we see it in as nice a way as possible. Watch their whole interview, along with the recordings of their radio interview.... pull out a chart of the Pacific Ocean...
pretty hard to find a charitable light for this!

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

Pelagic, et al,

It is worse than drivel, to, with greed aforethought, set about deceiving thousands of people, for personal gain.

It is not a funny joke; it is abhorrent behavior.

Ann

Ann, you forgot it being an encouragement possibly for some idiots.

[NoahTreat]

Originally Posted by Tom1340

If half of the headlines are true, then these gals did a great job of surviving, and they came out of it smiling. More power to 'em.

With all the lies told, How do you know how long they were actually at sea?

Question everything with this story.

[Zven]

Originally Posted by newhaul

charts are usually available for free download . Not the top of the line but in between a good nav chart and a page out of an atlas.
Btw in one vid clip their GPS nav plotter seemed to be working just fine .

There is a surprising number of people who have no understanding of maps, charts, the compass, the stars, or even where is East or West.

A GPS to them would be a waste of good batteries. A nav plotter nothing but a malfunctioning TV.

Now, by all means, I'd never claim there are likely more women than men in that group...

Neither that these two ladies might be in said group.

But it is something to keep in mind. More than once I've shown a person a map, in order to assist them with something, only to receive a blank stare in return.

[gordwedman]

Originally Posted by GTom

That's allright with me, just sounds weird they are very well prepared on one side, got a year worth of food but no means of communication. Not even an EPIRB

But they had two cell phones and two dogs.

[GTom]

Originally Posted by gordwedman

But they had two cell phones and two dogs.

Actually even cell phones might have worked near Kiritimati to call for help...

However the list goes on, they got Geiger counters...

[JPA Cate]

First, I would like to thank all the posters who have written in support of myself and my position.

I would like to explain why misrepresentation of facts in an incident that led to rescue matters so much to me.

1. Honesty in dealings of any kind is important to me. I am a person to whom trust is important, and for me, it cannot exist where there is dishonesty.

2. An event such as this, when the hoax aspects are finally realized, will only serve to make the general population question legitimate emergencies. It will make all long term cruisers appear worthy of suspicion. To me, not a good thing.

3. There are many people who read CF who do not post. I am a voice for the cruising community of which I am a member. Therefore, my honesty, and my process, like those of the other posters here, is important as a small representation of the community.

Ann

[Therapy]

Originally Posted by moetai

Un requin a frappé de sa queue mon safran mais c'etait plus pour se deplacer qu'autre chose ,et pourtant un voilier de 6 metres.
Si le gouvernail de ces filles etait cassé ,elles pouvaient quand meme se diriger un peu.
C'est vrai on ne sait pas tout de cette histoire.........

Right. We don't know everything and never will unless they admit it or agree to water-boarding. Polygraphs don't work well on experienced story tellers (actors).
If it is true that they do not know where the sun rises or sets or how a sailboat moves or how to judge wave height (one of my favorites even from people with experience) or how to do damn near anything on a boat, then, wellllll, I truly feel sorry for them and hope for swift new legislation preventing this type of behavior from the ignorant.
NO, WAIT! I believe Darwin more.

[Nicholson58]

Originally Posted by pbmaise

Checking article at https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...hs-lost-at-sea

Perhaps they had a mizzen mast that broke because I see just one pair of spreaders and both look okay.

If something was wrong with a spreader it may have been a standing line.

I see no inner forestay. That is also what they may have been talking about. An inner forestay would also have been useful to hank on a jib if the roller furler was damaged.

My point is that once one failure occurred on the rig they may have concluded their entire rig wouldn't work or was unsafe.

Certainly they should have had a block on board and at least one way to hoist up the mast to jury rig a short sail.
(Even after rescue after months at sea these appear to be very large women, and this may account for not going up the mast. How heavy were they when setting sail?)

We all know about people stranded by a flat tire with a perfectly good spare in the trunk.

The fishy part of this story to me is if they had resources to get dogs through the strick quarantine protocols they should have been better prepared. Alternately, they made no provision for the dogs.

No mizzen. Followed a couple links to find this one.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...e-month-ordeal

They claim to have experience. I agree there is something fishy about this. From the looks of the vessel, I think it could have been sailed. I totally don't buy the school of 30 foot sharks and peril of death story. Where was the PLB or EPIRB or backup communication, SAT phone or SSB? Too many things do not add up.

[brookiesailor]

Ok I am not saying much of their story is believable but there are some things that may contribute.
They were alone on a boat for a long time, even men that have been out for an afternoon of fishing tend to embellish, now imagine having five months worth of embellishing. They may actually believe what they are saying.

They said they had jerky, so there was protein for them and the dogs.

why they would have a Geiger counter if that was not their destination...

I have three boys, non of which can read a map.... I have had drivers overseas with the same affliction

The fact that they survived for so long is an accomplishment in itself. There have been many that have not been so fortunate.

They were obviously woefully unprepared on how to make repairs to some basic equipment if that was the case. They obviously studied on how to fix the things that they thought would break.

I agree that there was some weird kind of hushing of the one in the initial interview, like the blond had rehearsed her answers. But then again she had five months to do so

[Pete7]

It would seem the the Journalists on the Daily Mail have been reading CF and not for the first time. Suppose its easier to sit at a desk and and peruse forums rather than go and do any investigative reporting, especially if you don't know anything about it. The Journo didn't even have the article accredited to them.

Anyway the DM now doubts that the girls are telling the whole truth.

Experts: Lost Hawaii sailors survival story doesn't add up | Daily Mail Online

[GTom]

Originally Posted by Pete7

It would seem the the Journalists on the Daily Mail have been reading CF and not for the first time. Suppose its easier to sit at a desk and and peruse forums rather than go and do any investigative reporting, especially if you don't know anything about it. The Journo didn't even have the article accredited to them.

Anyway the DM now doubts that the girls are telling the whole truth.

Experts: Lost Hawaii sailors survival story doesn't add up | Daily Mail Online

If you have a very basic yacht training like comp. crew and seen standard safety equipment you are already expert enough to find the published videos fishy. Either way, at least the non-sailor audience won't associate "devils triangle at 160°W", "40 feet tiger sharks", etc. statements with the mariner/sailor community or worse, take these as role models!