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Old 07-11-2017, 09:03   #331
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you asked the question so here goes as far as estimating the wind speeds the vast majority of us that take our vessels offshore can estimate the wind speed rather close.
Differentiate between a killer whale and a shark. Well a whale is a mammal and a shark is a fish . Killer whales ( which are actually a breed of dolphin) have tail flukes that are horizontal.
Sharks which are fish have tail fins that run vertical in relation to their body.
Easy to distinguish .
A loose bolt in a spreader is not a big deal you just need to turn into the wind for a little while to climb the mast ( they had mast steps making it easy to ascend.) repair the bolt issue and continue on .

Any of us that take our boats offshore should be capable of accomplishing the repair.
Thank you Newhaul for writing your response. I was formulating basically the same response in my head but wanted to finish reading all comments before I added my opinion. You took the words right out of my mouth, and I agree 100%
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Well, at least you looked it up. That's something.
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[QUOTE=Cherod;2514014] I could say that I certainly would not be too concerned with the opinion of someone who sails a 24 ft boat !!QUOTE]
Says the guy, who by his own admission, doesn't even own a boat!!!!??? Wow.... "Sorry, I just can't take you seriously"
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I pretty much think most if not all the story is fake.

One thing that was posted here was the mention of there being a geiger counter on board. Is there or wasn't there a program at one time where the public sailors carried them with them and made measurement at certain places? This was because of the earthquake in Japan and the damage to the nuclear power plant there ?

Sorta like the one where you drag a net behind you to catch the little bits plastic and turn in some report at the end of the trip.
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I could say that I certainly would not be too concerned with the opinion of someone who sails a 24 ft boat !!QUOTE]
Says the guy, who by his own admission, doesn't even own a boat!!!!??? Wow....
Armchair warriors.

You can thank "reality TV."

I'd heard a bit about Survivor and it sounded interesting. Then one day I happened to catch and episode based (purportedly) in Indonesia and had to turn it off within five minutes. I'm certain there were millions of soon-to-be survival experts who continued to be edumacated.

Then there was the Man-Wife Survivor, in dire need of food on an "uninhabited" Pacific island they went a-searching a quickly discovered a whole bunch of coconut (robber) crabs in the crooks of trees.

No wonder city bound TV-enamored snowflakes think they can do anything.
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Armchair warriors.

You can thank "reality TV."

I'd heard a bit about Survivor and it sounded interesting. Then one day I happened to catch and episode based (purportedly) in Indonesia and had to turn it off within five minutes. I'm certain there were millions of soon-to-be survival experts who continued to be edumacated.

Then there was the Man-Wife Survivor, in dire need of food on an "uninhabited" Pacific island they went a-searching a quickly discovered a whole bunch of coconut (robber) crabs in the crooks of trees.

No wonder city bound TV-enamored snowflakes think they can do anything.
I quit watching when i found out there is a medical teams just about 100 yards from any of them. Didn't really put much stock in any of it even before then. Oh and the guy that couldn't start a fire and just happened to have a battery and some steel wool with him.... I can think of a lot of other items easier to carry to start a fire with in an emergency than that.
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I pretty much think most if not all the story is fake.

One thing that was posted here was the mention of there being a geiger counter on board. Is there or wasn't there a program at one time where the public sailors carried them with them and made measurement at certain places? This was because of the earthquake in Japan and the damage to the nuclear power plant there ?

Sorta like the one where you drag a net behind you to catch the little bits plastic and turn in some report at the end of the trip.
It is ill conceived or BS. Maybe planed on sailing past Japan's plant melt down.
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I wonder if yourself and the many other self opinionated doubters ( euphemism) will be quite so forthcoming with your apologies if or ever it is proven that you all wrong and that it was just an unfortunate misadventure by two fairly incompetent but innocent women who were looking simply for a pleasant cruise .


That is my favoured explanation, but there are some major things in their story that indicate more than 'fairly incompetent'.
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Re: HI->Tahiti Dingbats found after 5 months

Guard: Halt! Who goes there?
King Arthur: It is I, Arthur, son of Uther Pendragon, from the castle of Camelot. King of the Britons, defeater of the Saxons, Sovereign of all England!
Guard: Pull the other one!
King Arthur: I am, and this is my trusty servant Patsy. We have ridden the length and breadth of the land in search of knights who will join me in my court at Camelot. I must speak with your lord and master.
Guard: What? Ridden on a horse?
King Arthur: Yes!
Guard: You're using coconuts!
King Arthur: What?
Guard: You've got two empty halves of coconut and you're bangin' 'em together.
King Arthur: So? We have ridden since the snows of winter covered this land, through the kingdom of Mercia, through...
Guard: Where'd you get the coconuts?
King Arthur: We found them.
Guard: Found them? In Mercia?! The coconut's tropical!
King Arthur: What do you mean?
Guard: Well, this is a temperate zone.
King Arthur: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land?
Guard: Are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
King Arthur: Not at all. They could be carried.
Guard: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
King Arthur: It could grip it by the husk!
Guard: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
King Arthur: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
Guard: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
King Arthur: Please!
Guard: Am I right?
King Arthur: I'm not not interested!
[A second guard approaches the parapet]
Guard 2: It could be carried by an African swallow!
Guard 1: Oh yeah. An African swallow, maybe -- but not a European swallow, that's my point.
Guard 2: Oh yeah, I agree with that.
King Arthur: [exasperated] Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
Guard 1: But, of course, African swallows are non-migratory.
Guard 2: Oh, yeah.
[Arthur begins to depart]
Guard 1: ...So they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway.
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what color coconuts ?
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I just can't fathom how, after the plethora of disjointed stories, unlikely tales, and clearly debunked claims, anybody at all could consider these two maroons to be simply misunderstood.
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Re the Geiger counter ploy: The levels of radioactivity found at sea are really quite low. In order to detect them one needs both a very sensitive detector (which Geiger counters are not) and a heavy shield to eliminate background radiation. To make the information useful, one also needs to do some spectrometry so as to identify what isotopes are emitting the radiation. The requires laboratory equipment, a device called a pulse height analyzer and some knowledge to interpret the data.

They seem to have lacked ALL of the above, so I kinda doubt that they were involved in even a volunteer effort at measuring contamination from Fukashima (sp?).

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I just can't fathom how, after the plethora of disjointed stories, unlikely tales, and clearly debunked claims, anybody at all could consider these two maroons to be simply misunderstood.
you mean the guards? i also find it hard to believe a swallow can carry a coconut
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you mean the guards? i also find it hard to believe a swallow can carry a coconut
Wifey B: Were their coconuts big?
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you mean the guards? i also find it hard to believe a swallow can carry a coconut
Almost anything is possible. If Thor Heyerdahl is telling the truth, one of his expeditions captured two 6' eel elves. Elves are immature, fish-shaped eels that have not yet matured to adopt the well known adult snake-like form. So with 6' elves, we have two options: an eel that never takes a traditional mature form (like the amphibian axolotl) or there are 200' eels in the sea (like we see in the old seafaring block prints.)

I for one don't want to be the one to discover they were correct about strategically planning by tiger sharks simultaneously teaching their offspring to hunt humans on sailboats.
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