Liana's Ransom Abandoned at Sea

[FamilyVan]

Originally Posted by scuba0_1

Thanks for your service and the many lives you saved

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Wouldn't be great if we could find a way to just charge the foolish and irresponsible though

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[Brob2]

Originally Posted by scuba0_1

Based on that logic rescues would Hardley happen and you would still spend the same amount off money and then they would not have the skills when I might need rescuing so I'm all for them saving idiots.

Originally Posted by FamilyVan

I agree, it's part of the package when you live in a developed nation. When I was about 16 I was rescued in rough weather in Lake Ontario. Was I foolish to be out there? Absolutely. Would a fee have made me not foolish? No, I was 16.

I spent 9 of my years in the Canadian Coast Guard as a Rescue Specialist. I have been involved in a lot of rescues, some were the result of stupidity, some the result of hubris, but a great many were the result of bad luck or tragedy. I do not agree with charging for SAR. Even though these guys appear to have not been affected by bad luck or tragedy.

True, I'm being a bit small minded. Perhaps I could just slap them 'upside the head' once or twice.

I too was 'rescued' as a teenager, on a river, on a quiet evening, when I was late returning to the cottage on my laser.

CG (via a bullhorn, echoing across the river in the silence)- are you Blair Rob???

Yes?

CG (via bullhorn)- you're mother called....

I never really forgave her.


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[skipmac]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

I have an ad on a crew site looking for crew. Recently, I got a response from a young couple who would of fit in perfectly with this bunch of clowns. There profile pictures were them making funny faces. No experience but willing to learn on the way. I told them exactly what I thought...with no experience and a lack of maturity, they did not stand a chance of getting a crew position on any boat. There was an ensuing exchange of comments that followed, enforcing their immaturity. Just reminded me of this group being the same way.

So was this couple looking for a paid position or a free ride with shared expenses? For someone with zero experience I might consider the later but not the former.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Brob2

I believe the real issue here is the extent to which sailors (and I use this term loosely) should be offered free taxpayer funded rescue services on demand.

Taxes... TAXES...
You lot don't know what Taxes are...
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/your-t...153753372.html

[tanglewood]

Humiliation seems like a great price to pay. Except some people seem immune to that too.

[Dauntlessny]

I understand the reluctance to charge for SAR, but most countries do and boaters, skiers, etc deal with it as part of their insurance.

We must have insurance for cars.

Richard on Dauntless now in Ireland
Kadey Krogen 42'

[tanglewood]

I took a drive by Rose Marine in Gloucester yesterday to see if Liana's Ransom was there. Sure enough, it was. Here are some more pictures.

A few observations:

- It's a steel hulled boat with no signs of compromise.

- The aft mast is missing, but the forward mast and boom are in place and intact. Both are steel.

- The Kayaks are still on deck

- There is a bicycle on deck too.

- The railing all around the deck is steel tubing, but is planked over, presumably to keep small children from falling overboard. Some of the planking has been knocked out, but no more than 10%.

- The bow sprit has been knocked off and the chain is hanging down in the water.

[Muckle Flugga]

Originally Posted by skipmac

So was this couple looking for a paid position or a free ride with shared expenses? For someone with zero experience I might consider the later but not the former.

I have seen a good number chancers of the latter sort, and amazingly even quite a few with "no sailing experience but LOTS of life experience, fast learners, and willing to sail ANYWHERE for only very low pay".

Yep. That's it. You get to learn to sail from an experienced professional while being paid for the privilege.

Not.