The BVI's, a word of caution

[NaClyDog]

Originally Posted by Joli

There two elderly couples who wondered into BVI waters are still in custody 11 days later. They probably don't have $20,000? The border opens in 4 days, think they'll let them go?

It's interesting to here the comments from the residents of St Thomas about BVI residents going to Red Hook to shop. They say most don't bother with customs. Maybe that'll change?

What happened to the concept of their country, their rules? I don't understand why so many people are having a difficult time understanding this.


How is this scenario any different than this?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...eeks-1.4717060


How does that saying go? "People living in glass houses..."

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by NaClyDog

What happened to the concept of their country, their rules? I don't understand why so many people are having a difficult time understanding this.


How is this scenario any different than this?


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...eeks-1.4717060


How does that saying go? "People living in glass houses..."

Absolutely this^^^

Their country their rules.

Although it also follows, “My money my rules.” And I won’t spend it in a country that is bringing people into port and fining them in the name of stopping the spread of covid.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by NaClyDog

How is this scenario any different than this?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...eeks-1.4717060

The young woman is fortunate that Canada decided to readmit her. They could easily have said no leaving extradition to France and a blot on her record in three countries.

I will be happy to return to the BVI when the legal opportunity presents itself.

[contrail]

Originally Posted by Joli

There two elderly couples who wondered into BVI waters are still in custody 11 days later. They probably don't have $20,000? The border opens in 4 days, think they'll let them go?

It's interesting to here the comments from the residents of St Thomas about BVI residents going to Red Hook to shop. They say most don't bother with customs. Maybe that'll change?

As a BVI resident who shops in Red Hook, to shop, we absolutely pay Customs. Basically, you either went on the ferry or your own boat. If you went by ferry, you go through Customs, who do check and charge. If you go on your own boat, you check in. True, Customs rarely comes to your boat, but they can, and do if they are suspicious. But most people who come on their own boat are cruisers, charterers, in particular, crewed charters, and those aren't likely to be smugglers. That leaves the go fast boats that are probably involved in smuggling and the drug trade, although there are plenty of legitimate folks with those boats, too. Problems with those boats, during the pandemic, is one reason that Customs and Immigration and the Police have become so much tougher on all boats. (You can't very well go after local boats, politically, whilst allowing white tourist boats to go unchecked, politically, can you?)


The fact that we recently had a $250 million drug bust (largest in history, for all the British Overseas Territories), and a Covid spike, due to a surreptitious and illegal entrant might put pressure on the authorities to be even more stringent, would you not think?

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

Absolutely this^^^

Their country their rules.

Although it also follows, “My money my rules.” And I won’t spend it in a country that is bringing people into port and fining them in the name of stopping the spread of covid.

It doesn't matter what reason they are fining them in the name of
The rule is BORDER CLOSED Simple, for most.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

It doesn't matter what reason they are fining them in the name of
The rule is BORDER CLOSED Simple, for most.

Your country your rules.

To clarify:

The issue I have is bring them into port in the name of reducing the spread of covid.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

Your country your rules.
.

Exactly
And if you truly understand and acknowledge that then why do you have an issue?

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

Exactly
And if you truly understand and acknowledge that then why do you have an issue?

I don’t like their rules?

[karkauai]

I have written to the BVI to express my disgust at their draconian treatment of these people, the life's blood of the BVI. I will not sail ir visit there again until and unless they apologize to those individuals and cruisers in general, the fines are rescinded, and their policy softened to allow for a simple warning for the first offense.

If you feel the same, I recommend that you let them know as well.

[Pegu Club]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

I don’t like their rules?

Your opinion is irrelevant. You don’t seem to understand that, you must be an American.

Fair winds,

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by Pegu Club

Your opinion is irrelevant. You don’t seem to understand that, you must be an American.

Fair winds,

LOL.

I don’t like the way they’re enforcing their rules so I choose not to give them my money.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by karkauai

I have written to the BVI to express my disgust at their draconian treatment of these people, the life's blood of the BVI. I will not sail ir visit there again until and unless they apologize to those individuals and cruisers in general, the fines are rescinded, and their policy softened to allow for a simple warning for the first offense.

If you feel the same, I recommend that you let them know as well.

I'm sure they'll be quivering in their boots.

There will be.......

[Simi 60]

You guys would never be able to cope in Australia,
here we can get as much as a $225,000 fine and possible loss of vessel for dragging a lure through or anchoring in or even traversing through protected areas on the Great Barrier Reef.

Its up to the master of the vessel to find out about it
Ignorance is not an excuse.

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by Simi 60

You guys would never be able to cope in Australia,
here we can get as much as a $225,000 fine and possible loss of vessel for dragging a lure through or anchoring in or even traversing through protected areas on the Great Barrier Reef.

Its up to the master of the vessel to find out about it
Ignorance is not an excuse.

Is it OK if I don’t want to go there, just as I don’t want to go to the BVI?

[Montanan]

FYI,

Atoll has kindly posted this update regarding Grenada enhanced deterrance to Covid-19 rule breakers at the CruisersForum thread titled: Re: corona virus alerts - Latest cruising Information for vessels/locations/rules

Linked here.
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...95#post3286695


GRENADA new increased fines and jail term for covid quarantine breakers

https://www.nowgrenada.com/2020/12/g...5NM27ebqvMqtLg

1947 Quarantine Act to be amended to increase penalty for breach of quarantine regulations Amendment will be laid in the House on Wednesday, 2 December 2020 Fine increased to $25,000 with imprisonment for 1 year

Government is amending the 1947 Quarantine Act to increase the penalty for individuals who breach the Quarantine (Covid-19) regulations. At present the maximum fine for breaching the quarantine regulations is EC$10,000.

According to the amendment which will be laid in the House on Wednesday, 2 December 2020, the Bill is seeking to amend section 7 (2) to increase the maximum penalty from a fine of $10,000 and imprisonment for 6 months, to a fine of $25,000 and imprisonment for 1 year.


Presently 1 East Caribbean Dollar equals 0.37 United States Dollar