Should Large Power Boats be Banned?

[K_V_B]

Originally Posted by valhalla360

I suggest you do a little research into how the "war on drugs" has turned out. They tried your approach.

All it did was drive up prices, increase smuggling and in the end make a total mess of things.

Why do you think that I came to the conclusion that nothing is going to be done about climate change?

[Pete7]

Sadly I think you are probably going to be proven correct. Sure they will tinker around the edges with petrol and plastics but its not enough.

Meanwhile those clever Japanese people at Toyota have released the next Miami Vice fuel guzzler built in ..............yep the US, probably the only country with folk who could afford to run such a vessel apart from a few arabs.

Toyota and Lexus announce the production of their*twin V8-powered sport yacht concept - YBW

[rgleason]

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[BigBoater917]

Think how many lies we could save and how much fuel and materials we could save if we did away with recreational boating!

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by sailpower

Deep in bed with us? All the same?

Is that code for we don't actually have the capability to invent and manufacture our own stuff so we use yours but reserve the right to sniff at us while doing so?

The US could have been energy independent years ago but chose not to be. Dumb.

Fortunately that has now changed.

Enjoy your new fuel tax and I will enjoy my new Tahoe.

You win. LOL

No when I was referring to automobiles..deep in bed meant acting like brothers. There is really no need for us to design and develop new automobiles when together we come out ahead. We drive just as many big half tons per capita on the prairies as you guys so no stones being cast but in the large cities many/most of our cars are Japanese or European, not so much American/Canadian built. Half tons are American as they still build better trucks than competitors. Look don't get me wrong, some of our closest friends are American but that doesn't mean we have to agree with some of your Government policies. And to be fair to your Government until the recent fracking technologies were available you never had a choice of being energy independent as you just didn't have the reserves. Government policies had nothing to do with it but for the record the current government hasn't contributed much as your oil companies have been developing and expanding this technology for several years now so it's to their credit, not your Government.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by sailpower

Deep in bed with us? All the same?

Is that code for we don't actually have the capability to invent and manufacture our own stuff so we use yours but reserve the right to sniff at us while doing so?

Don't paint with too broad a brush. Autos are a multinational industry, with components made and assembly done on a few continents.

Between my wife and I, we've owned two American brand vehicles... and that was enough, thanks. We only buy Japanese brand now... but one was assembled here in Canada, and one was assembled in Kentucky. Both fine vehicles.

Enjoy your new fuel tax and I will enjoy my new Tahoe.

You enjoy that Tahoe; your kids and your grandkids probably won't get the chance to do likewise.

[cyan]

Originally Posted by robert sailor

One hurtle Americans have to get over is that they are 5% of the world's population and they use 20% of the world's energy.

Seems like a really good deal for the world, actually. Americans deliver most of the important inventions to better everyone's lives, yet only use 20% of the world's energy in doing so. That is awesome. It would be a really good investment for the human race to keep this up so that we can get cheap fusion and clean energy that comes with it. You know, let those boys carry on and save the world. No?

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by cyan

Americans deliver most of the important inventions to better everyone's lives, yet only use 20% of the world's energy in doing so. That is awesome. It would be a really good investment for the human race to keep this up so that we can get cheap fusion and clean energy that comes with it. You know, let those boys carry on and save the world. No?

Riiiiight. Maybe if some American cruisers would stop sh!tting on everyone who pushes for conservation and energy alternatives like fusion, wind and solar, your American scientists and inventors could stop having to fight about it and actually get on with it.

[rgleason]

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[thinwater]

Originally Posted by cyan

Well "b" seems like a compassionate choice, but if "adequate" puts you on an 18 month MRI waiting list for a tumor then you might need some money and cross a border to the south. Honestly, your idea seems is sound- just not sure any government can handle it properly.

So if there is a problem I can't easily solve, I give up.

That doesn't sound like a sailor. You solve the problem, even when it is not convenient. That is a the challenge of sailing.

[cyan]

Originally Posted by thruska

Yes of course we all know we can depend on Volkswagen for honest data on fuel consumption. Or any auto manufacturer for that matter.

Originally Posted by boatman61

You may choose to believe them..
I prefer to reset the milometer every time I fill up.. real time truths..

But who will check your pollution numbers? Volkswagen cheated with clever software that led a half million "clean diesel" owners to believe that they were doing relatively good thing. Instead, they were polluting at 40 TIMES the amount that all the "smog tests" showed. The lesson? Never be TOO smug (like M from Montreal) when you brag to your friends about your carbon footprint because of your "clean diesel".

[cyan]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Riiiiight. Maybe if some American cruisers would stop sh!tting on everyone who pushes for conservation and energy alternatives like fusion, wind and solar, your American scientists and inventors could stop having to fight about it and actually get on with it.

Was that mistakenly meant for the Jabsco thread??

[cyan]

Originally Posted by thinwater

So if there is a problem I can't easily solve, I give up.

That doesn't sound like a sailor. You solve the problem, even when it is not convenient. That is a the challenge of sailing.

Not sure what the first part is about, but we agree on the second part!

[Lake-Effect]

To try to claw my way back to the OP... it's a public relations problem. We just have to create buzz around a different kind of prestige yacht.