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Old 13-06-2022, 13:37   #16
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Re: How does a mainsail with a jib work

The funny thing is you don't learn to drive by understanding the engine, you just need to know how to control it. Magically the sails bend the wind, as they push the wind back, the wind pushes the sails forward, which drives the boat.

The boats which capsize are dinghies, they use the crew to balance the force on the sail... or not. Your boat has a load of weight in the keel which keeps the boat right-side-up-ish.

Keep up-wind. It is hard to get off a down-wind, so-called 'lee shore'.

Get insurance before you go bumping into other people's boats.

My advice is free and worth every penny.
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Read Sailing for Dummies. It is a real and great book. Will save us all having to type answers to your questions, the book explains it all.
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I was astonished how Porn showed up with words in no way related to porn.

I was looking at buying a Hunter 356 and it was named Lola. a few days later I searched for "lola hunter" and there i found it, she is a pornstar

I still wonder if the previous owner knew that lol
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I was looking at buying a Hunter 356 and it was named Lola. a few days later I searched for "lola hunter" and there i found it, she is a pornstar

I still wonder if the previous owner knew that lol
Named after the Kinks song?
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Old 13-06-2022, 15:22   #20
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Re: How does a mainsail with a jib work

"Oh, and to answer the question. If sailing afore the beam, Always set & trim the Jib first, then trim the main, as the “slot effect” will affect the main’s trim.

If abaft the beam, then trimming the jib, especially If the main is “blocking” it, is not as important. The main, is this case, becomes the first sail to be trimmed…"

A little too much sailing terminology and jargon for a newbie.
I think it will serve you best to go out in your boat with an experienced sailor who can more effectively show you how the sails operate.
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Old 13-06-2022, 23:49   #21
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Yes, definitely take lessons and maybe even read a book or two about sailing.
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"Oh, and to answer the question. If sailing afore the beam, Always set & trim the Jib first, then trim the main, as the “slot effect” will affect the main’s trim.

If abaft the beam, then trimming the jib, especially If the main is “blocking” it, is not as important. The main, is this case, becomes the first sail to be trimmed…"

A little too much sailing terminology and jargon for a newbie.
I think it will serve you best to go out in your boat with an experienced sailor who can more effectively show you how the sails operate.
I'd say if you want less complexity with regards to terminology, using "afore" and " abaft" to describe which end of the boat the wind is coming from, is about as complex as you can get.
A lot of sailors don't even know afore from abaft.
As well these folks may not know what the Beam is.
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As well these folks may not know what the Beam is.
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Beam?

As in: "any of various relatively long pieces of metal, wood, stone, etc., manufactured or shaped especially for use as rigid members or parts of structure"
Is that the long piece of metal or wood that sticks up in the middle of the boat?
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Re: How does a mainsail with a jib work

The main is an airfoil. It’s adjustable in shape. It’s a wing with its stubby heavy partner in the water. In order to create lift the airfoil needs high pressure on the outside and low pressure on the inside.
Many foresails overlap the leading edge of the main to do just that.
Down wind a foresail like a spinnaker or code zero drag the boat along like a parachute.
A main should half at least one reef to power down the boat in wind to heavy for it. This just shortens the main in height but dramatically reduces square foot of sail.
The foresail is not so lucky and will need changing to an ever smaller sail - a storm sail. The practice of rolling a foresail to reduce sail area usually will stretch the sail.
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I used google voodoo and found a number of videos on basic sailing.

Don’t people use search engines anymore? Just today on another topic I had some moron challenge me on a statement. “What’s you’re source??!!” He demanded. Duh, I responded. Start with wikimoronpedia and I gave him a link. Then I gave him more, credible links he could have found himself if he’d bothered. While I’m on a soap box, it was about French history. He’s a French citizen. Do people read books anymore? Do they teach in schools?
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https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/fox-terrier-22

It’s a sweet little boat. Well built in the UK. Solid glass handlaid hull Baltech deck.
Check the pole inside the cabin is snug, rudder mounts and stanchions mounts.

A long shaft outboard would be great. The 4hp Yamaha would be my pick.

Lovely first boat hope you folks enjoy it large. Be safe
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Beam?

As in: "any of various relatively long pieces of metal, wood, stone, etc., manufactured or shaped especially for use as rigid members or parts of structure"
Is that the long piece of metal or wood that sticks up in the middle of the boat?
Maybe?
Possibly the little light on the tip of the boat?
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The foresail is not so lucky and will need changing to an ever smaller sail - a storm sail. The practice of rolling a foresail to reduce sail area usually will stretch the sail.
The OP's photo shows a furling headsail which appears to be standard on Fox 22s.
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https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/fox-terrier-22

It’s a sweet little boat. Well built in the UK. Solid glass handlaid hull Baltech deck.
Check the pole inside the cabin is snug, rudder mounts and stanchions mounts.

A long shaft outboard would be great. The 4hp Yamaha would be my pick.

Lovely first boat hope you folks enjoy it large. Be safe
I don't think that's the same boat. I'm pretty sure that the OP is talking about this one:

https://ottenhomeheegsale.com/fox-22/
"The Fox 22 was designed by Koos de Ridder, the designer of many famous and popular Dutch sailing yachts."


The OP's photo shows a Honda outboard in the cockpit well (fish hold) . The rental boats from the same company have a 6HP Yamaha according to the photo gallery
https://ottenhomeheeg.com/yacht-rental/fox-22/
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The OP's photo shows a furling headsail which appears to be standard on Fox 22s.
Right, he'll be wondering why you can't reef that one effectively.
If at all.
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