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Old 29-10-2013, 14:14   #1
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Shaft Log to Stuffing Box - What Hose

After reading here and there Ill ask anyways. Im still working on my Catalina 27 and plan on replacing the hose on the prop shaft and replace the packing seal. My reading tells me a min. ply of 4 on the hose will do but 6 ply would be the best {COMPASS SITE} Its my understanding to stay away from the wire cored hose. Assuming that the Cat direct site is correct and the inside dia is 1 5/8 then that is a odd duck when it comes to industrial hose sizes. They go from 1 1/2 to 2 not much in the middle. I have access to 3 ply hose through a buddy that owns a Industrial supply company and even his comments are the sizes are basic. Any thoughts are welcome. I plan on removing what is on the boat now and only assume its original or at least replaced once Im sure Ill gain some insight on what has worked in the past.
Il all ears. Thanks Brad
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Re: Shaft Log to Stuffing Box What Hose

Check on stuffing box sizes. A prop shop can tell you if such exist and they usually have hose.
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Old 29-10-2013, 15:29   #3
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Thats worth looking into. Ill have the shaft and all out shortly. I can determine what was used to begin with. Im somewhat land locked and not in a coastal area with out a 3 hour drive so a no prop shop around the corner but at least a phone call away. Looking at the cutlas bearing I cannot find a definite line between the strut and the bearing. Ill have to clean things up and see if I can determine where to press it out. It almost looks like there is no insert that the strut came with the rubber in it.?? Not likely but it sure looks that way.
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Old 29-10-2013, 15:51   #4
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Well it appears that the cutlass bearing is copper and chipping apart. Looks like its going be a pain.
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The owner of Compass Marine post here under the name Maine Sail. He is an extremely helpful guy. He also has a featured contributer section on sailboatowners.com. (There is also a Catalina's owner section on that site.). Try asking him where to find the right hose.
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Packing Box Hoses - Heavy Duty On Buck Algonquin
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For the $25 why don't you just order it from Catalina Direct and be done with it.
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After reading here and there Ill ask anyways. Im still working on my Catalina 27 and plan on replacing the hose on the prop shaft and replace the packing seal. My reading tells me a min. ply of 4 on the hose will do but 6 ply would be the best {COMPASS SITE} Its my understanding to stay away from the wire cored hose. Assuming that the Cat direct site is correct and the inside dia is 1 5/8 then that is a odd duck when it comes to industrial hose sizes. They go from 1 1/2 to 2 not much in the middle. I have access to 3 ply hose through a buddy that owns a Industrial supply company and even his comments are the sizes are basic. Any thoughts are welcome. I plan on removing what is on the boat now and only assume its original or at least replaced once Im sure Ill gain some insight on what has worked in the past.
Il all ears. Thanks Brad
Marine Hardware has a decent packing box hose in 1 5/8" X 4". While not as thick as the Buck Algonquin product it is better than a wet exhaust hose..

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Old 29-10-2013, 18:00   #9
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Well everything is out and assuming Im looking at the hose correctly it is 4 ply. That is 4 strands of material. Needles to say it has held up. I dont have a problem with budget on this but I would like to put things back together this weekend which means shipping and down time. As I said I have access to 3 ply American made and most likely free. If its not up for the task then a heavy ply will be used. I also spoke with a outfit and they said come on by if I can find a piece [in the scrap bin] that meets the needs I can have it. The packing box is 1 5/8 at the lip. So the fit is correct Is 3 ply right on the edge?
I do agree in this case that heavier will be better. Just looking for some direction and I do appreciate the input. Just trying to keep the project moving forward. Im looking forward to getting the boat on the water.
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I'll second the Buck Algonquin hose. Replace my old hose with one of these and it looked pretty heavy duty.

This is one place you don't want to scrimp considering the down side if it fails and the hassle to replace it if you don't sink.
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I'll second the Buck Algonquin hose. Replace my old hose with one of these and it looked pretty heavy duty.

This is one place you don't want to scrimp considering the down side if it fails and the hassle to replace it if you don't sink.

Did anyone that recommends Buck notice that they don't list 1 5/8" on their catalog?
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Did anyone that recommends Buck notice that they don't list 1 5/8" on their catalog?
Well now that you mention it, no.

On the other hand, I would bet a (small) sum of money that a 1 1/2" hose could be "persuaded" to fit a 1 5/8" fitting without an inordinate amount force.
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Did anyone that recommends Buck notice that they don't list 1 5/8" on their catalog?
Well, since you mentioned it I did look and found a 1 5/8" stuffing box hose right here.



Item # 80ho162512, Packing Box Hoses - Heavy Duty - 12" Section On Buck Algonquin?
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Well, since you mentioned it I did look and found a 1 5/8" stuffing box hose right here.



Item # 80ho162512, Packing Box Hoses - Heavy Duty - 12" Section On Buck Algonquin?

Teach me to open my mouth. Didn't see any reason to check the 12" hoses after checking the first section.
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Teach me to open my mouth. Didn't see any reason to check the 12" hoses after checking the first section.
I have a spare foot I can loan you to insert in mouth Just took it out of my own mouth a day or so ago.
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