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Old 04-03-2020, 21:12   #16
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That's true, Chris... and just a few miles up the Clarence at Maclean the public pontoon does have a free pumpout... but it is locked up tight, and reports from the locals say that it isn't functional. At least that was true the last few times we've been there. I dunno if that is typical.

Oh... to access that in a yacht, you must pass under the Harwood bridge, and that requires 24 hour notice for raising. A lot of effort for a pumpout!

I hope other places do a better job of this!

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i know we are a bit 'lake mac focused', however there are 5 free pump-out stations within 10 miles of us at the moment

maybe because it's a lake and they worry it won't flush ?

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i know we are a bit 'lake mac focused', however there are 5 free pump-out stations within 10 miles of us at the moment



maybe because it's a lake and they worry it won't flush ?



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Any idea what size fittings they use?
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Any idea what size fittings they use?
the standard cam lock fitting is used for all nsw pump outs (i believe)

(nb : the diff 32mm & 40mm threaded end size is to suit whatever fitting you have on the boat. the cam-lock end is the same, to suit the hose)

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the standard cam lock fitting is used for all nsw pump outs (i believe)

(nb : the diff 32mm & 40mm threaded end size is to suit whatever fitting you have on the boat. the cam-lock end is the same, to suit the hose)

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Hmm... here are seven different "standard" cam lock fittings, but there may be more...

https://www.cpp-lm.com/index.php/sit...ock-size-chart
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the standard cam lock fitting is used for all nsw pump outs (i believe)



(nb : the diff 32mm & 40mm threaded end size is to suit whatever fitting you have on the boat. the cam-lock end is the same, to suit the hose)



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Ummm... no, the cam lock ends are not the same, hence my original question about which “standard” is in use. From what I am hearing, there may be no such thing.

I have TWO different cam-lock ends sitting right here in front of me, one has an outer diameter of about 50 mm and the other has an outer diameter of about 45 mm. People here refer to them as 40 mm and 32 mm respectively, probably because that’s the thread sizes on the threaded end. But the cam-lock ends are, most emphatically, different.

I’ve adapted both to work with my 38 mm ID deck fitting as per RaymondR’s advice, so the question is now kind of academic, but I am still curious to know if the pump out docks have mostly standardised on one or the other. I suspect it will be the bigger of the two, but I was hoping someone would know for sure.

Edit: Wotname’s list made me measure more carefully and the bigger is the 54 mm OD variant.
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Hmm... here are seven different "standard" cam lock fittings, but there may be more...

https://www.cpp-lm.com/index.php/sit...ock-size-chart


And therein lies my problem.

You know, that article hasn’t made me feel a lot better.

Just saying.
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And therein lies my problem.

You know, that article hasn’t made me feel a lot better.

Just saying.
Ahh yes... you are now better informed but none the wiser
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Ummm... no, the cam lock ends are not the same, hence my original question about which “standard” is in use. From what I am hearing, there may be no such thing.

I have TWO different cam-lock ends sitting right here in front of me, one has an outer diameter of about 50 mm and the other has an outer diameter of about 45 mm. People here refer to them as 40 mm and 32 mm respectively, probably because that’s the thread sizes on the threaded end. But the cam-lock ends are, most emphatically, different.

I’ve adapted both to work with my 38 mm ID deck fitting as per RaymondR’s advice, so the question is now kind of academic, but I am still curious to know if the pump out docks have mostly standardised on one or the other. I suspect it will be the bigger of the two, but I was hoping someone would know for sure.

Edit: Wotname’s list made me measure more carefully and the bigger is the 54 mm OD variant.
ok, sorry...i stand corrected

just never heard of anyone who has to carry multiple fittings for different pump out locations. we definitely never did and never had any problem fitting the hose.

now i am as confused as you are / were

i wonder if somehow the hoses can accept multiple sizes ?

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ok, sorry...i stand corrected



just never heard of anyone who has to carry multiple fittings for different pump out locations. we definitely never did and never had any problem fitting the hose.



now i am as confused as you are / were



i wonder if somehow the hoses can accept multiple sizes ?



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I think you are part of the fortunate minority that have some unified standards, and I’ll bet it’s the bigger fitting.

It is important to me because I am heading to Lake Macquarie and would like to be able to easily comply with the regs.

Anyway, I’ve got two sizes now, hopefully that will see me through.
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Re: Australian East Coast pumpout facilities.

Doesnt your black tank have a gravity drain for when you are off shore,

Mine has a 3 way valve, Tank, Over the side and gravity drain,

If all else fails, A 25 or 30 mm hose 20 feet long, Poked into your tank and dragged thru the water, Will drain your tank by gravity using the force of the water to suck it out,
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ok, sorry...i stand corrected

just never heard of anyone who has to carry multiple fittings for different pump out locations. we definitely never did and never had any problem fitting the hose.

now i am as confused as you are / were

i wonder if somehow the hoses can accept multiple sizes ?

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Bloody Victorians, they're at it again, socialist ratbags.

In any discussion of standards in Australia one must remember that we once had about five or six gauges of rail line spacing one of which was called "standard gauge".
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Doesnt your black tank have a gravity drain for when you are off shore,

Mine has a 3 way valve, Tank, Over the side and gravity drain,

If all else fails, A 25 or 30 mm hose 20 feet long, Poked into your tank and dragged thru the water, Will drain your tank by gravity using the force of the water to suck it out,


My tank has more ways of being evacuated than I care to mention.

But for compliance purposes, I’d rather not have to document every time I dump the contents. Having a pump out option removes this requirement.

Incidentally, the force you are talking about with the dragged hose would be a Venturi effect. I’d need to be doing about 30 knots to create enough Venturi effect to suck out the contents of this tank, the initial lift is nearly a meter.
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Bloody Victorians, they're at it again, socialist ratbags.

In any discussion of standards in Australia one must remember that we once had about five or six gauges of rail line spacing one of which was called "standard gauge".
A lot more than 5 or 6
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