LPG Solenoids Australia, Peel in particular

[GILow]

Hi all,

This has sort of been addressed before, but just looking for ideas on LPG solenoids in Australia because none of the threads addressed my particular question.

I have the solenoid that came with my Peel gas detector. It only lasted a bit over a year before failing, in the on position, which is kinda scary.

A replacement Peel valve is about $AU200. Painful, but not near as painful as the AU$330 I see for one of the other major brands here in Oz.

Does anyone else have experience with the Peel valves? If so, did they get a better lifespan, might I have been just unlucky?

I am not keen on trying my luck with a FleaBay cheapie, not for this job, and international parcels at the moment are just a little tricky, though not impossible, so I guess I'd try a reputable international vendor if anyone had a recommendation.

Before anyone goes there, please, I do not want this to become another LPG/Propane thread that gets shut down over arguments about the safety of LPG on the boat, the regulations or the advisability of using a solenoid.

Those issues have been argued in great detail and we have all made our decisions in a fully informed manner thanks to those exhaustive debates.

Matt

[Reefmagnet]

Goyen used to be the best. Dunno how they go price wise though,

[Bruce K]

The best and simplest system I have see: A gas rated ball valve on the cylinder, with a suitable spring to keep it closed, bowden cable leading to the stove, a bit of cord in a loop, that could be hooked onto the handle of the cable to hold the ball valve open. To shut off gas simply unhook the cord. In the event of a fire the cord was supposed to burn through, thus closing ball valve and cutting gas supply off. Seems a fail safe system!

[GILow]

Originally Posted by Bruce K

The best and simplest system I have see: A gas rated ball valve on the cylinder, with a suitable spring to keep it closed, bowden cable leading to the stove, a bit of cord in a loop, that could be hooked onto the handle of the cable to hold the ball valve open. To shut off gas simply unhook the cord. In the event of a fire the cord was supposed to burn through, thus closing ball valve and cutting gas supply off. Seems a fail safe system!

Interesting, but I’d like to recover the ability of the gas detector to shut down the gas supply automatically in the event it detects a leak.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Goyen used to be the best. Dunno how they go price wise though,

You bl—dy ripper! That’s the same one they are selling, rebadged, for over AU$330 on various boating web sites, and I’ve already found it for under $200.

Thank you! I owe you a beer or two when I am finally allowed to go North.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by GILow

You bl—dy ripper! That’s the same one they are selling, rebadged, for over AU$330 on various boating web sites, and I’ve already found it for under $200.

Thank you! I owe you a beer or two when I am finally allowed to go North.

Prey tell - Where did you find it - I am also in the market for one.

[IslandHopper]

My system is a BEP Marine 600-GDL Gas Detector controlling a GOYEN Solenoid valve, P/n 1Q6M-A1BVT-70D7.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by UFO

Prey tell - Where did you find it - I am also in the market for one.

So far....

https://www.aquavolt.com.au/category...trol-detectors


But I’ll follow up Island Hopper’s part number next.

[UFO]

Originally Posted by GILow

So far....

https://www.aquavolt.com.au/category...trol-detectors


But I’ll follow up Island Hopper’s part number next.

Thanks

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by GILow

You bl—dy ripper! That’s the same one they are selling, rebadged, for over AU$330 on various boating web sites, and I’ve already found it for under $200.

Thank you! I owe you a beer or two when I am finally allowed to go North.

[billgewater]

I also have a Peel unit. When installing, I noticed that there was a fine split in the insulation of the wires entering the cut off solenoid coil. It was replaced but I was a bit surprised that this should have passed inspection.
I previously had a dual solenoid system that allowed me to automatically select either LPG bottle (not usable with the Peel system). I used solenoids purchased from a company that was doing LPG gas installations in cars. Never had any problems with them over 20 years
What part of your solenoid failed? The actual solenoid coil or the mechanism that opens to allow gas to flow?

[El Pinguino]

I'm currently using one of these https://www.bepmarine.com/en/vr2-2 ( comes as shown) bought from Marine Deals in NZ..they ship to Oz ...

I have had the Goyens.. if you turn them right way up... https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-ydm1...40.500.jpg?c=2 .... that fitting on the top is ferrous as are some internals. If you have a 'wet' gas locker salty humid air can cause these bits to rust and I have had a case split on one... possibly two... Swaddling in Denso tape should solve that problem.

[grahamb]

Might be worthwhile to check with the local refrigeration parts wholesaler.......they have lots of solenoids...........and if not rated for LPG.........one of the suppliers to the wholesaler may well have it in their range......

[GILow]

Originally Posted by billgewater

I also have a Peel unit. When installing, I noticed that there was a fine split in the insulation of the wires entering the cut off solenoid coil. It was replaced but I was a bit surprised that this should have passed inspection.

I previously had a dual solenoid system that allowed me to automatically select either LPG bottle (not usable with the Peel system). I used solenoids purchased from a company that was doing LPG gas installations in cars. Never had any problems with them over 20 years

What part of your solenoid failed? The actual solenoid coil or the mechanism that opens to allow gas to flow?

Interesting... I will see if mine had the same problem.

It failed internally. It seems to be stuck in the on position. It still gives an audible click when you apply and remove power, but the gas path remains on at all times. From time to time the gas path does turn off, but that is rare.

[GILow]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I'm currently using one of these https://www.bepmarine.com/en/vr2-2 ( comes as shown) bought from Marine Deals in NZ..they ship to Oz ...

I have had the Goyens.. if you turn them right way up... https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-ydm1...40.500.jpg?c=2 .... that fitting on the top is ferrous as are some internals. If you have a 'wet' gas locker salty humid air can cause these bits to rust and I have had a case split on one... possibly two... Swaddling in Denso tape should solve that problem.

I found the BEP solenoid only (which is better for my installation) in the Australian site for Marine deals at a very attractive price, thank you. https://www.marine-deals.com.au/boat...-nickel-plated

From what you are saying it seems you’d recommend the BEP over the Goyen?