Sterile Urine ... Liquid Gold?

[s/v Jedi]

Am I the only one thinking about fastbttms who went completely nuts last time this subject came up??

He was apparently cleaning a boat bottom when the owner's hand came out of a porthole with the urine bottle and poured it straight on top of him

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Faerie rings are about 15-20 ' across and are gateways for the fairys. Nothing to do with puppies pee!.



They are watching you



dave

15 to 20 ft?
Flegilhorst where I was stationed in in Germany was a Luftwaffe base in WWII. In the spring all around the base there were these dark green circles about 20 or so ft. across that would appear in the grass fields, there were many of them. Came from Allied bombing, apparently explosives are very rich in nitrates, which make the grass really green even 50 yrs later.
Didn't know they were Faerie rings

[peghall]

Originally Posted by Blue Crab

I've been asking this question for awhile now. The folks I know in Fl don't have desiccating heads. I'm hoping someone has a read on the officials' attitude about pee in a NDZ.

The law does not distinguish between urine and fecal matter...they are both considered "sewage" under the law...and federal law (33 CFR 159 and 40 CFR 140) prohibit the DISCHARGE ("includes, but is not limited to, any spilling, leaking, pouring, pumping, emitting, emptying, or dumping") of untreated SEWAGE ("human body wastes and the wastes from toilets and other receptacles intended to receive or retain body waste") from any vessel in US waters inside the "3 mile limit"...of ANY waste treated or not, in any waters designated "no discharge."

So it's just as illegal to flush urine directly overboard or dump a jugful of it over the side anywhere inside the "3 mile limit" as it is to flush solid waste.

[senormechanico]

Urine uncharted territory with this thread.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

15 to 20 ft?
Flegilhorst where I was stationed in in Germany was a Luftwaffe base in WWII. In the spring all around the base there were these dark green circles about 20 or so ft. across that would appear in the grass fields, there were many of them. Came from Allied bombing, apparently explosives are very rich in nitrates, which make the grass really green even 50 yrs later.
Didn't know they were Faerie rings

That's interesting, thanks for sharing.

[champ2kt]

On the hook over the side. in the slip hump it to the club house. Nobody thinks twice about peeing off the stern but somehow dumping it seems icky. I just try to be respectful of my neighbors.

[jongleur]

Our friends worked for a biomedical research
company. They collected their urine and kept
it in the freezer at home until they took it in
to the lab. They got paid generously for it.

They kept track of how much they got paid
and when they bought a new van, it was paid
for by that. They call it the pee van.

[Tantalus]

Originally Posted by jongleur

Our friends worked for a biomedical research
company. They collected their urine and kept
it in the freezer at home until they took it in
to the lab. They got paid generously for it.

They kept track of how much they got paid
and when they bought a new van, it was paid
for by that. They call it the pee van.

I knew there should be money in pee somehow, after all, in WWII, the army used to collect the urine from soldiers being treated with penicillin, extract the penicillin, and reuse it.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by jongleur

Our friends worked for a biomedical research
company. They collected their urine and kept
it in the freezer at home until they took it in
to the lab. They got paid generously for it.

They kept track of how much they got paid
and when they bought a new van, it was paid
for by that. They call it the pee van.

You know that's a little scary, what were they given to make the pee so interesting?

[ShaktisBoy]

On our airhead composter I don't like the pee dumping job so I plumbed a 12 volt liquid pump from the urine jug to the top of the holding tank. Now we flip a switch and empty the jug in about 15 seconds and can stay in a NDZ about 3 months or so before pump out or heading offshore to dump. Total cost of the project was about 45 dollars and 2 or so hours of install.

[Blue Crab]

14 votes! 986 to go! Heh.

So many fun responses. When Fstbttms does show up, I'm switching the topic to "effective" bottom paint.

Thanks Peg. That's the law as it stands. I'm wondering how the uniforms are going to deal with it in sensitive places. The composter is a porta potti but I suspect eventually an officer may wonder what we do with the liquid.

In fact, I'm planning on having a 5 gal jug for urine storage for use in FL when show and tell time comes.

[s/v 'Faith']

Originally Posted by ShaktisBoy

On our airhead composter I don't like the pee dumping job so I plumbed a 12 volt liquid pump from the urine jug to the top of the holding tank. Now we flip a switch and empty the jug in about 15 seconds and can stay in a NDZ about 3 months or so before pump out or heading offshore to dump. Total cost of the project was about 45 dollars and 2 or so hours of install.

Wow! Something useful on this thread!

What kind of pump did you use, and how long has it been working for you?

Great idea, seems like a tough application for a pump.

[Blue Crab]

Originally Posted by ShaktisBoy

On our airhead composter I don't like the pee dumping job so I plumbed a 12 volt liquid pump from the urine jug to the top of the holding tank. Now we flip a switch and empty the jug in about 15 seconds and can stay in a NDZ about 3 months or so before pump out or heading offshore to dump. Total cost of the project was about 45 dollars and 2 or so hours of install.

Good solution. I started with the composter because I didn't have a holding tank on my new to me boat.

[Dulcesuenos]

Originally Posted by senormechanico

Urine uncharted territory with this thread.

All these people must be Urapeein,,,

😅

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[Ocean Girl]

Originally Posted by ShaktisBoy

On our airhead composter I don't like the pee dumping job so I plumbed a 12 volt liquid pump from the urine jug to the top of the holding tank. Now we flip a switch and empty the jug in about 15 seconds and can stay in a NDZ about 3 months or so before pump out or heading offshore to dump. Total cost of the project was about 45 dollars and 2 or so hours of install.

I think this is what we might end up with, a marine head hybrid dessicate the poo and tank the pee till a pump out can be had(cruising strict NDZ). Right now we have gallon jugs we take to the bath house toilets in a discreet backpack. We are in a marina with poor tidal exchange, and it is no big deal to empty at the BH.

The only thing to be careful, for the people with homemade heads, is when you have a permanent holding tank, the Coast Guard may require a CG certified marine head. Right now, as I understand it, homemade heads must have portable holding tanks. Permeant holding tanks must have certified marine heads. They (CG)may not enforce this, it was just a word of caution from CHead who was nice enough to give me advice about building our custom desiccating head.