What is the carbon footprint for the US MSD program?

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

No. The government is in the business of collecting revenue and expanding itself and not in the business of solving problems.

Except of course in Finland.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

I have a new question.



Is it legal to pee or dump urine from a boat within 3 miles from shore? (In a no-discharge zone.)

I had it explained to me that it was legal to pee off the side of a boat, except for the public nudity part, but to pee in a cup and dump it overboard was not

[Jason Flare]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Except of course in Finland.

The question was about the US.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by Jason Flare

No. The government is in the business of collecting revenue and expanding itself and not in the business of solving problems.

Reason what the majority of the US police force is driving around in automobiles giving out speeding and other tickets, catching crooks does not generate revenue, catching a speeder does.

However I feel certain that the enforcement is more than anything else meant to get rid of the eyesore of anchored boats, just too many instances of middle of the night and very early inspections to make me think otherwise. I don't think those inspections are public health related. Annoy the boater and they will leave
As I have posted several times living on a boat is illegal in the State of Georgia, admitted reason was as a way to get rid of the eyesore boats anchored on some river in Ga. Reason it's illegal is those people could be discharging their wastes into our water was the excuse, so no legal live aboards in Georgia. Used to be 30 days a yr you were allowed to stay on your boat, now I think 90 and you may be supposed to fill out a form etc.
http://coastalgadnr.org/msp/ap/Liveab

Possible this could happen elsewhere?

[ArmyDaveNY]

Wow, we're up to ten pages.

Hmmm, how much electricity was used to discuss the MSD program, and how was this electricity generated? How much carbon did this generate? How much should this be counted as part of the carbon generated by the MSD program? Were any carbon credits used? If so, should we count the massive amounts of carbon generated by Al Gore that are used to promote the carbon credits?

In other words, what is the carbon footprint of beating a dead horse?

Should this be a different thread? Tune in next week for the answers to these and other questions. Same bat time. Same bat channel.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by ArmyDaveNY

Wow, we're up to ten pages.

Hmmm, how much electricity was used to discuss the MSD program, and how was this electricity generated? How much carbon did this generate? How much should this be counted as part of the carbon generated by the MSD program? Were any carbon credits used? If so, should we count the massive amounts of carbon generated by Al Gore that are used to promote the carbon credits?

In other words, what is the carbon footprint of beating a dead horse?

Should this be a different thread? Tune in next week for the answers to these and other questions. Same bat time. Same bat channel.

For me the power comes directly from the sun via solar and soon to be installed wind genny.
Which more than offsets my miniscule .04 pounds of co2 added to the ecosystem for the extra fuel to dispose of pee. ( in a years time. )

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Flare View Post
No. The government is in the business of collecting revenue and expanding itself and not in the business of solving problems.

Except of course in Finland.

There is a certain amount of truth in that actually, and no government, including the one in Finland, is fundamentally different. But it's only partially true so may be misleading.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by newhaul

For me the power comes directly from the sun

The power for EVERYBODY comes from the sun; biomass, fossil fuels, hydro-electric, thermal mass (volcanoes etc) even radioactive elements are all just intermediate storage formats.

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by ArmyDaveNY

Wow, we're up to ten pages.

Hmmm, how much electricity was used to discuss the MSD program, and how was this electricity generated? How much carbon did this generate? How much should this be counted as part of the carbon generated by the MSD program? Were any carbon credits used? If so, should we count the massive amounts of carbon generated by Al Gore that are used to promote the carbon credits?

In other words, what is the carbon footprint of beating a dead horse?

Should this be a different thread? Tune in next week for the answers to these and other questions. Same bat time. Same bat channel.

I believe you nailed it!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

The power for EVERYBODY comes from the sun; biomass, fossil fuels, hydro-electric, thermal mass (volcanoes etc) even radioactive elements are all just intermediate storage formats.

Yep we all know that . Therefore I did make the statement that my power comes DIRECTLY from the sun via my solar panels. I however have no illusions concerning the pollution created in the manufacture of my panels, batteries, and even my classic plastic vessel.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Lake-Effect

The power for EVERYBODY comes from the sun; biomass, fossil fuels, hydro-electric, thermal mass (volcanoes etc) even radioactive elements are all just intermediate storage formats.

just found one thing you listed that didnt come from sol (our sun) . Radioactive materials. They came from prior stars that have died and resultant materials spread throughout the cosmos. So radioactive materials came from a sun just not ours.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by newhaul

just found one thing you listed that didnt come from sol (our sun) . Radioactive materials. They came from prior stars that have died and resultant materials spread throughout the cosmos. So radioactive materials came from a sun just not ours.

Well then. I just learned something new today! thanks!

[ArmyDaveNY]

Originally Posted by newhaul

just found one thing you listed that didnt come from sol (our sun) . Radioactive materials. They came from prior stars that have died and resultant materials spread throughout the cosmos. So radioactive materials came from a sun just not ours.

Thank you for this good news. That means I can indeed convert to my new fission power plant (I'm getting a good deal on used parts from Fukishima in Japan) since hauling around some lead shielding will be carbon neutral. A side benefit is that I can leave the air conditioning on all the time without feeling guilty!

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by ArmyDaveNY

Thank you for this good news. That means I can indeed convert to my new fission power plant (I'm getting a good deal on used parts from Fukishima in Japan) since hauling around some lead shielding will be carbon neutral. A side benefit is that I can leave the air conditioning on all the time without feeling guilty!

Actually dave you ought to get a mr fusion works great on refuse. (Garbage)
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-M.../dp/B00NPADMRK

[ArmyDaveNY]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Actually dave you ought to get a mr fusion works great on refuse. (Garbage)
https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-M.../dp/B00NPADMRK

Can I use it alone or do I need the flux capacitor to go with it? I am confused now. Should I use Mr. Fusion or stick with the discounted fission parts? What about warp drive? Given that my boats are displacement hulls, will impulse power be sufficient? So many choices!