Does this jib seem right ? 1973 Ensenada 20

[WilliamKidd]

They make me reduce my images to post them that original was 1.8 mb I had to reduce to a quarter of the size to post it and I can't see it after I do for the last couple of days . No real reason i suppose just so the view isn't obstructed by the life line . I'm hoping to be able to patch some of the holes in my sails by sewing them but which one to cannibalize...

[WilliamKidd]

Not so much pennants as a bungee cord [emoji2958]

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by WilliamKidd

They make me reduce my images to post them that original was 1.8 mb I had to reduce to a quarter of the size to post it and I can't see it after I do for the last couple of days . No real reason i suppose just so the view isn't obstructed by the life line . I'm hoping to be able to patch some of the holes in my sails by sewing them but which one to cannibalize...

You should be able to post them at about 300KB size.(but don't do it on my account).

Canabalize the Hobi sail since to make that one fit is a big job.

I doubt if the jibs should be flown with the bungie cord on the tack.

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by WilliamKidd

This is the third . I dug out an old sewing machine today and learned how to use one . Attachment 223779

Those triangular clear panels are for viewing tell-tales. They are on the leading edge. The sail needs to be turned around.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Those triangular clear panels are for viewing tell-tales. They are on the leading edge. The sail needs to be turned around.

It is an odd placement for tell tale viewing ports, but the panel layout seems to say that the sail is in the correct orientation, Don. Ie, perpendicular to the luff...

Kinda strange... that's for sure! One gets the feeling that the PO wasn't a sail snob!

Jim

[WilliamKidd]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Those triangular clear panels are for viewing tell-tales. They are on the leading edge. The sail needs to be turned around.

Yes! I sure hope someone got a good chuckle out of that . I knew it was a just matter of time before I posted something silly like that . It actually took longer than I thought!

[WilliamKidd]

Windows seem like a good way to patch a hole

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

It is an odd placement for tell tale viewing ports, but the panel layout seems to say that the sail is in the correct orientation, Don. Ie, perpendicular to the luff...

Kinda strange... that's for sure! One gets the feeling that the PO wasn't a sail snob!

Jim

And one would assume that there are hanks on the luff which WK attached to the forestay...but maybe not. I wondered why the luff is rolled so much.

Looking at the reinforcement patch at the corner which he is using as a "tack" , yeah, that looks like a clew patch.

As Kenneth Grahame wrote, "Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats.” So I wish this little blue boat was sitting on a patch of grass near my marina so I could help the OP mess around with it and figure out all these things.

That is an attraction of older, very cheap, boats now so commonly available.

And then when it's sorted out and you've gone sailing with it a few times, you can say to the OP, "Yep, that was fun, now get it out of here before the marina starts charging for it being here."

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

One gets the feeling that the PO wasn't a sail snob!

Jim

OH yes, one does get certain feelings about the PO! And I'd absolutely agree very little snobbery displayed there! (Which can be refreshing!) We all gotta start somewhere....

[Carlos Molinelli]

Originally Posted by WilliamKidd

Title says it all folks. I had some trouble with my main ,incorrect sails came with the boat .
So my question to the massive twitching brains on this forum is .... is this jib the right size ? Also I don't seem to have anyway to attach to now chainplate there is an old rusty pulley on the turnbuckle . Does the foot of the jib attach directly or is there a length of line in between ? Attachment 223498

There is not a single answer to this question, because it depends of the average wind speed of the area where you sail.

You will find useful the following Ensenada 20 sail plan.

https://www.sailrite.com/Ensenada-20-Sail-Data

You will notice that in the drawing there are two stays, probably for different sailing areas. You seem to have the lower version.

Look for the second photo for the original sail dimensions and compare them with yours.

As a overall rule, a taller jib will perform much better than a shorter with the same area.

Size of genoas and jibs are measured as % of LP vs J.

https://www.sailboat-cruising.com/sail-dimensions.html

Normally, a genoa I is 150% of J, a genoa II 135/140%, a working jib 85-100% of J.

But the final answer is particular to every boat (sail/displacement - ballast/displacement, etc.) and the sailing area

Your second question: should be attached to the deck or via a wire? The taller it is attached the boat will heel more without any better performance. In high winds is better to have a short wire at the foot to allow the water go across without hitting the sail.

[Kurlie1]

Compare shape of Jib and Genoa.
Heavy weather (Jib) allows waves to wash deck without sail catching water.
Genoa more powerfull.
Sheets should bisect the clew angle