Jib handling from cockpit without furler

[nic26]

Hello everyone,

I would like to ask the oracle of the knowing and experienced. I have a ketch with a centre cockpit and I am sailing alone. Therefore I would like to move the jib operation into the cockpit, but without a furling system, just by lines.

I had already looked for a practical solution and found two systems how to do it. Unfortunately I can't find them anymore. Can anyone remember such a system or would have an idea how I could search?

Thanks for your help
El

[Quebramar]

Hi El,
Not sure if it would work with a hank-on jib, let’s see: put a block on the deck at the tack and attach a kind of downhaul onto the head of the jib, working like the opposite of the halyard, this line goes thru the block and back to the cockpit.
I am planning to try this on the hard wind jib I have on a removable stay this year.
Curious of other opinions or solutions.

Edit : just found an illustration, so the concept is confirmed:

[nic26]

Originally Posted by Quebramar

Hi El,
Not sure if it would work with a hank-on jib, let’s see: put a block on the deck at the tack and attach a kind of downhaul onto the head of the jib, working like the opposite of the halyard, this line goes thru the block and back to the cockpit.
I am planning to try this on the hard wind jib I have on a removable stay this year.
Curious of other opinions or solutions.

Edit : just found an illustration, so the concept is confirmed:
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Hi Quebramar,
(yes, hanked on jib) In general that is the concept but as much as I remember the finesse was to lead the line also through the clew so that before the sail comes down it is pulled to the forestay.
El

[tenchiki]

As I learned the hard way in the past, it is important to attach the top end of the downhaul to the uppermost jib hank, not to the halyard shackle. Otherwise, it is likely to jam the upper hank on the jibstay. If the jib hanks are big enough, run the downhaul line through the hanks to keep it more constrained. 1/8" dyneema works well, especially if spliced to a larger (well, 1/4") line at the end to pull on. (You can make a strong end-to-end splice of dyneema and 2x diameter double braid. Definitely not for the inexperienced!)

[Kestrahl]

Yes also remember when doing this we ran the line though the hanks

[Quebramar]

Originally Posted by nic26

Hi Quebramar,

(yes, hanked on jib) In general that is the concept but as much as I remember the finesse was to lead the line also through the clew so that before the sail comes down it is pulled to the forestay.

El

I think the following is what you are looking for then: https://forums.sailboatowners.com/th...ousing.126436/

[Benz]

I agree that the downhaul must be attached to the topmost hank rather than sail cringle. I don't even use a turning block alow: just an LF ring. Remember to have a place to tightly belay the downhaul to when it's down; it's what keeps the sail from creeping back up in a gust. Also, to prevent it slapping against the sail when hoisted, you need to snug it up when the sail is at full hoist.