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Old 17-06-2014, 11:08   #1
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New Bend?

I have been playing this afternoon with examining the structure of the Alpine BB and the Zeppelin (almost identical by the way, apart from one of the overhands being flipped).

I looked at what else could be done with two overhands and came up with a neat looking knot. Generally neat also works .

I can't find it in Ashley's BOK or Grog's Animated Knots.

Is it a knot anyone recognises from the appearance? I still have to work out what the easiest way is of tying it.

This is the appearance on one side:
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Old 17-06-2014, 11:10   #2
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re: New Bend?

And this is the other side.

No idea if it grips well or not, but as a starter is it a known bend?
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Old 17-06-2014, 11:14   #3
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re: New Bend?

If it is a new one, any suggestions for names?
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If it is a new one, any suggestions for names?

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If it is a new one, any suggestions for names?
Its called a hunters bend,

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Its called a hunters bend,

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Hi JJT

Oh, just looked up the Hunter in Grogs. Yep, thats it .

I didnt bother looking at the Hunter there as the Hunter in Ashley was different.
I was right that it was a good one though LOL. Grog's write: "Tied the way he employed for the testing, the Ashley and the Hunter's consistently jammed tight and would have had to be cut to release them."

Yep, it was a good one LOL!
It may be useful to play with this one for Dyneema if it jams so easily. I am keen to come up with a good bend for Dyneema.

Well, back to the drawing board.

This was the Hunter in Ashley:
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Hi SWL,
I cannot tell a lie, I did not actually know it and I thought I had a good knowledge of knots and bends, so it was a welcome, new one for me.
If you look to page 261 of your Ashley's, you will see it there. It is number 1425A.

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Re: New Bend?

Found it thanks. I had not realised the diagram next to 1425A was for 1425 and the diagram for 1425A was at the bottom of the following page . Silly error of mine. I could have saved a lot of subsequent hunting, but then again I would have missed out on the fun LOL. At least learning a bit along the way.

It is a nice knot though isn't it .

Thanks again for chiming in with the answer.
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Re: New Bend?

> the Ashley and the Hunter's consistently jammed tight and would have had to be cut to release them."

Which, to me, rule them out as sailing knots

I don't like jamming knots - especially on a boat.
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Re: New Bend?

I do like the looks of this know, but I question the idea that it would jam to a point where cutting would be the only release. When I look at the photo in post #2 it seems as though you could release the knot despite previous tension by forcing the "wings of the butterfly" down.
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