Out Of Mast Mainsail Furler?

[theway]

Is this possible by any means, it just seems most complaints or complications are from it being in the mast. I guess the obvious rigging challenge is securing the foot of the sail.

Any ideas, thoughts? Or is this completely ridiculous?

[newhaul]

Loose footed main.

[theway]

Originally Posted by newhaul

Loose footed main.

Seen any furling ones?

And maybe ones that you can add without removing the current main on the boom?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by theway

Seen any furling ones?

And maybe ones that you can add without removing the current main on the boom?

yes in fact I did some work on a ketch a few years ago that had a cdi furler mounted straight up the mast about 3 inches aft of the mast with the main mounted on it.
https://www.velasailingsupply.com/cd...kaAkgqEALw_wcB

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by newhaul

yes in fact I did some work on a ketch a few years ago that had a cdi furler mounted straight up the mast about 3 inches aft of the mast with the main mounted on it.
https://www.velasailingsupply.com/cd...kaAkgqEALw_wcB

These systems are ok for lower pointing boats and motor sailors. Hard on the wind the furler sags close to a couple of feet much like a headstay does but no way to straighten it. Second best idea unless it comes on boats I described.

[theway]

Originally Posted by newhaul

yes in fact I did some work on a ketch a few years ago that had a cdi furler mounted straight up the mast about 3 inches aft of the mast with the main mounted on it.
https://www.velasailingsupply.com/cd...kaAkgqEALw_wcB

That’s pretty nice....
$1,700! Ouch!

[theway]

Originally Posted by robert sailor

These systems are ok for lower pointing boats and motor sailors. Hard on the wind the furler sags close to a couple of feet much like a headstay does but no way to straighten it. Second best idea unless it comes on boats I described.

Yeah, good “point”. Reason why I’d like to keep the footed main rigged too. But would be nice to leisurely pull out some main on certain days when reaching or lower.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by robert sailor

These systems are ok for lower pointing boats and motor sailors. Hard on the wind the furler sags close to a couple of feet much like a headstay does but no way to straighten it. Second best idea unless it comes on boats I described.

never said it was a good idea . Personally I prefer slab reefing.

[Craig Cape Town]

Years back I sailed on board a westerley with a boom furler. The sail literally rolled up onto the boom. It never quite took off as one still needed to go to the mast to crank the boom around.
I've seen more modern in-boom furlers which are easier to deal with, if they get jammed. That may be an alternate to the in-mast furler.

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by Craig Cape Town

Years back I sailed on board a westerley with a boom furler. The sail literally rolled up onto the boom. It never quite took off as one still needed to go to the mast to crank the boom around.
I've seen more modern in-boom furlers which are easier to deal with, if they get jammed. That may be an alternate to the in-mast furler.

In boom systems are quite good but very sensitive to boom angle when furling, that and a price that might shock you because they are definitely not the cheap seats.

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by theway

Is this possible by any means, it just seems most complaints or complications are from it being in the mast. I guess the obvious rigging challenge is securing the foot of the sail.

Any ideas, thoughts? Or is this completely ridiculous?

On my schooner rig, both mainsails are profurl systems behind the mast and it is the simplest system to operate.

Our boat is a big heavy motor sailor so sailing performance was never the main priority .

[Wulf]

Our Union 36 had a CDL mainsail furler when we purchased it. Convenient, yes. But we were not happy with sail shape and control. And I doubt we would have been with a new sail on the CDL. Removed it, modified the gooseneck to move boom forward and got a new Leitch & McBride mainsail 3 reefs. Love it now. Union 36 is certainly not a performance boat but decent sails and sail control make for a far more efficient experience. We’re very happy with our current setup, roller furling on the headsails, slab reefing main.

[fatherchronica]

As we don't have racing boats anymore, and in our old age are not in much of a hurry, I would go with the CDI style if I were to get a furling main. I am sure someone has solved the howling inmast furling problem, but most have not, and if you are by a boat that howls in the wind it is more annoyng by far than a one bladed wind generator.

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

On my schooner rig, both mainsails are profurl systems behind the mast and it is the simplest system to operate.

Our boat is a big heavy motor sailor so sailing performance was never the main priority .

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A good choice for your boat as schooners are not high pointing rigs to begin with but they sure go well off the wind so curlers work just fine

[Captjohn4]

I have a 1982 Contest 38S Ketch with the CDI system mounted on the main, it sails beautifully and is so convenient since I ran all the lines to the cockpit. The only problem I had was the stay supplied was a little light and broke, they replaced it with a heavier one and all is great. On my mizzen I have a slick track so that the sail can be raised with only hand pressure.

The in boom furlers are way expensive ($20,000 or so) and are quite touchy to deal with. The in mast furling systems are even more expensive since you need to replace he mast and that would probably run maybe $40,000. Look at the CDI system and give them a call.