Rail Line Hangers

[Dave22q]

I don't know if this was reinventing the wheel but I finally decided to do something better than securing loose coils to my railings with spare line or shock cord rather then stumble over them. my solution, build a teak belaying pin-type holder. a stainless u-bolt into a short piece of 1/2" teak. the challenge was sourcing the bolts. they generally are sized for pipe (tubes are sized by outside diameter but pipe is sized by inside diameter)so a 1" u-bolt will fit a 1" steel pipe with an outside diameter of 1.5". a nominal 1/2" bolt perfectly fit my 1" railing. total cost $5-6 each. MSC is one supplier who had the right bolts and the time to explain the sizing.
I put 5 on my boat and am sorry I did not get a few more. of course it is more teak to maintain but that's what we love about sailing...isn't it?

[cabo_sailor]

Could you please post a picture or two. I can't get belaying pins out of my mind and can't quite visualize your system.

Rich


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[Dave22q]

have pix but don't see how to attach. e-mail me amd I will send. drill 2 holes near bottom of 6"x1/2x1/2 teak dowel spaced 1.5" on centers. u-bolt fits over rail into wood and secured with nuts leaving teak stocking up about 4.5" above the rail.
dave22q@hotmail.com

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Dave22q

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[Dave22q]

hope this helps

[svHyLyte]

That's an awful lot of work rather than just doing a coil hitch with the tails of the lines, no? And all of those hard, pointy objects on the rail would be somewhat of a hazard in snotty weather.

[Dave22q]

i can probably drill 2 holes as fast or faster then you make a coil hitch but i only do it once. also 1/2 x 1/2 blunt end fails my definition of 'pointy but thanks for your helpful opinion.

[svHyLyte]

I find it unlikely that you can drill holes faster than someone can throw in a coil hitch and more likely that no one has ever bothered to show you how to make one (one of the many disadvantages of the "Just Do It" approach to learning to sail/boating). The following is how it's done. (The loose tail in the last frame--entitled "Done"--can be passed back through the loop to "lock" the hitch in place.)

[Dave22q]

I would generally not reply to such aggressive arrogance but am curious as to what your posting was attempting to accomplish. Boosting one's self by attempting to put down others is unattractive at best.

[svHyLyte]

Originally Posted by Dave22q

I would generally not reply to such aggressive arrogance but am curious as to what your posting was attempting to accomplish. Boosting one's self by attempting to put down others is unattractive at best.

Ah... Actually "Dave" I'm not sure where you discern "arrogance". My follow-up to your somewhat acidic retort to my first observation was merely to share a simple, easy, solution to your expressed need based upon 50+ years of experience. If the offering offends you, then ignore it, tho', if so, I submit you may be too sensitive a young man for a venue where one isn't awarded trophies for participation.

Your original post sought accolades for a solution you thought elegant/wise but actually solves a non-problem and creates a hazard in snotty conditions. (Landing on a 1/2" square hardwood peg can and will do serious damage to a face, chest or butt--but don't trust me, trust, oh, say OSHA).) Evidently, not getting accolades from everyone--considering there are many ways to skin a cat, some more simple than others--you were rather miffed (considering your tone which I ignored initially but here not.).

N'any case, have at it your way. Different ships, different long-splices, eh? (But do punch up the "Ignor" button on me to spare yourself any further exposure to my offerings/observations, eh?.)

Here Homer nods...

[belizesailor]

Percieved arrogance aside, I prefer HyLyte's approach. I just throw a clove hitch or rolling hitch on the rail minus his finishing slip. Quick, easy, and lines can be hung anywhere, not just where there is hardware. A clove hitch or rolling hitch can be undone quickly by just pulling the overlapping line section of the hitch.

Personally, I think belaying pins and pin rails are more appropriate to traditional vessels where you have a LOT of control lines to manage.

Regarless, there is no right or wrong answer here, just personal preference.

[Pelagic]

Each to their own ..so simple discussion on preference

I agree with beliezesailor assessment.

Clean, versatile and less of a potential maintenance issue of drilling openings in a stainless tube.

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by svHyLyte

That's an awful lot of work rather than just doing a coil hitch with the tails of the lines, no? And all of those hard, pointy objects on the rail would be somewhat of a hazard in snotty weather.

Yup, so much easier to learn to tie a few knots.

I hear the same thing about those stupid-to-me sheet bags on the back of cockpits. What a waste of good canvas!