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Old 27-05-2019, 16:32   #16
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Re: Real simple bone head rigging questions

That is particularly slick that the hatch still slides. Yes hitting the noggin was of concern. I want a hard dodger so I am going to have to figure something out. It would really help having one place I could stand up in, in the cabin. Maybe fixed sides with a tilt up top to get into the cabin?



I am on a might-loose-the-wife-in-divorce budget. I was going to try and get the TP5500 to work but getting the wind input etc is just so expensive it is not worth it. The PyPilot-signalK-openplotter projects look just too much fun to me.
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That is particularly slick that the hatch still slides. Yes hitting the noggin was of concern. I want a hard dodger so I am going to have to figure something out. It would really help having one place I could stand up in, in the cabin. Maybe fixed sides with a tilt up top to get into the cabin?
That might work, but one of the nice bits was being able to see forward while I was cooking or just standing under the shelter of the hatch. Here in South Australia, the main function was actually as a sun shade, rain is something that mostly happens to other people.


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The PyPilot-signalK-openplotter projects look just too much fun to me.
I agree. But I am such a DIY guy that I wrote my own code and used a picaxe, which has to be one of the most basic chipsets out there. But if you don't enjoy coding (understandable) then the PyPilot project would be the way to go.

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I am on a might-loose-the-wife-in-divorce budget.
Ah... well... I'm on the "I-already-lost-the-wife-in-a-divorce" budget and I have to say, it is a much better budget when it comes to the boat.
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Old 27-05-2019, 16:57   #18
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Mike, any pictures of the boat, snazzy interior and stanchion damage?
Did you get pulpits or were those also lost in the 'incident' of which no one speaks...

My boat was also set up for roller furling but the folks from the owners' group suggested not to use it.
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Old 27-05-2019, 20:01   #19
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GiLow, I like to code but I have so much to do that I need to be efficient with my time. I remember when I was shopping for my first boat. The owner was anal and had done an incredible job on the boat. But one day he woke up and realized he was too old to sail it. I am on the clock now too to get it done before it is too late. I wasted a lot of money on my last boat and I promised my better half that I would adopt the "if it is good enough it is good enough philosophy".

Spot, IS your boat a Kingfisher? My eyes are not good enough to tell by your icon. The KIngfisher can not be associated with the word snazzy anywhere but it is very practical and I think a well build vessel. I did not get any of the stanchions but I just found some old Chris Craft bases that I hope will work. The front pulpit is there but nothing in the stern.
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Old 27-05-2019, 20:08   #20
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I did fabricate a new handrail which I am proud of considering I made the base disks on a drill with a file.
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Old 27-05-2019, 20:16   #21
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and I got my stove installed! After years trying to decide how to install a propane stove that would be safe I finally got smart and put in an Origo 4000 and it was done in a week.
Also my new "really cheap opening portlights" project looks like it is going to work.
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Old 27-05-2019, 22:24   #22
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and I got my stove installed! After years trying to decide how to install a propane stove that would be safe I finally got smart and put in an Origo 4000 and it was done in a week.
Also my new "really cheap opening portlights" project looks like it is going to work.
Err....

I don't know how to ask this... but shouldn't the portlight open inwards?
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Old 28-05-2019, 00:30   #23
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Matt, I never saw any like that before!

Yet another project.

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Matt, I never saw any like that before!

Yet another project.

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I'm assuming that's a mock-up prior to final installation. Or maybe there's a problem with the liner or space inside?
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Looks like a fun boat Mike!
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Old 28-05-2019, 07:51   #26
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Err....

I don't know how to ask this... but shouldn't the portlight open inwards?

No everybody else just mounts they wrong


It does not make sense to me to mount it the "other" way.


1. IF you forget the close the portlight it will close if a wave hits it rather than opening fully
2. I can open the portlight int he rain and not get water in the boat
3. It does not take up space when open in the boat.
4. It does not act like a bowl collecting water.
5. It is a very small boat so no big deal that I have to go outside to lock them.
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Old 28-05-2019, 09:15   #27
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It does not make sense to me to mount it the "other" way.


1. IF you forget the close the portlight it will close if a wave hits it rather than opening fully
2. I can open the portlight int he rain and not get water in the boat
3. It does not take up space when open in the boat.
4. It does not act like a bowl collecting water.
5. It is a very small boat so no big deal that I have to go outside to lock them.

Interesting theory, but I am with the "inside" crowd:
  • I don't think the port would reliably self-close in a wave. Even if it eventually did, you'd still have received a good interior douse.
  • A hard enough rain plus a little wind - water would blow in, or bounce off the deck and in
  • If taking a wave over the bow or on the side is remotely possible while underway, we dog all hatches, close any ports, and even stick in the washboards.
  • The most common time for needing to open or close ports and hatches is overnight, when it gets stuffy (open it), chilly (honey, please close it!), or a rainshower pops up. (omg! close it quickly!). Much nicer - and safer! - to manage all that from inside.
We also have arrangements (a dodger, screens for companionway and forward hatch) that allow us to have bug-free ventilation even in the rain.


I think you'll agree with us after a few weekends out
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Old 28-05-2019, 10:30   #28
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I think you'll agree with us after a few weekends out I don't think so...


"I don't think the port would reliably self-close in a wave. Even if it eventually did, you'd still have received a good interior douse.'
An open in side will guarantee a big dousing.


"A hard enough rain plus a little wind - water would blow in, or bounce off the deck and in'
Sure but in a light rain they don't have to closed.


"If taking a wave over the bow or on the side is remotely possible while underway, we dog all hatches, close any ports, and even stick in the washboards."
So would I and I don't have to go inside to do it.


"The most common time for needing to open or close ports and hatches is overnight, when it gets stuffy (open it), chilly (honey, please close it!), or a rainshower pops up. (omg! close it quickly!). Much nicer - and safer! - to manage all that from inside."
Don't have to "close it quick" rain is not pouring in. Still can close it from inside just not latch it.


It is also stronger with waves pushing it to the side of the boat rather than trying to push it off in into the interior.


I rest my case
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A sheet is going to snag it and rip it or the closing toggles clean off the boat.

Sorry, but that IS going to happen.
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A sheet is going to snag it and rip it or the closing toggles clean off the boat.

Sorry, but that IS going to happen.

We shall see.
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