Reconfigure this mainsheet block/cam cleat

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

Here you say this "

But here, rather rudely you say this...("Look, you asked for input, you have receive it from those of us with experience in just this issue. Please don't shoot the messengers.")

It works both ways.
Matter of preference Stu, right?
They in FACT are used both ways.

But You have Your opinion tagged as right, and others as "Plain stupid."
Kinda Rude.
These set ups are used with Vangs as well.
it varies.
BYD

Please, look before you leap

You are conflating the two Stu's. I didn't post the second comment you object to.
(And your quoting technique could do with a little improvement )

[Boatyarddog]

Originally Posted by StuM

Please, look before you leap

You are conflating the two Stu's. I didn't post the second comment you object to.

StuM your post #2
"Sure, move the cam. You really do not want to pull up. I sailed a Catalina 25 for 11` years with that kind of mainsheet and pulling up would be "not indicated", "wrong" or at worst plain stupid."
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Lots of different ways to do things friend.
No harm done.
As well your spelling....(Improement)?
Boatyarddog

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

StuM your post #2
"Sure, move the cam. You really do not want to pull up. I sailed a Catalina 25 for 11` years with that kind of mainsheet and pulling up would be "not indicated", "wrong" or at worst plain stupid."
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Lots of different ways to do things friend.
No harm done.
As well your spelling....(Improement)?
Boatyarddog

Sigh!

I repeat, that's NOT MY POST. take another look at who you are quoting

(For the record, I've never sailed a Catalina 25 )

[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Boatyarddog

StuM your post #2
"Sure, move the cam. You really do not want to pull up. I sailed a Catalina 25 for 11` years with that kind of mainsheet and pulling up would be "not indicated", "wrong" or at worst plain stupid."
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Lots of different ways to do things friend.
No harm done.
As well your spelling....(Improement)?
Boatyarddog

C'mon, BYD.


There are two DIFFERENT skippers here with the same first name of Stu.


He is StuM


I am Stu Jackson


See the difference yet?


I do, however, wholeheartedly agree with Stu's recurring posts reminding us to use correct nomenclature. Amp hours anybody?

[jongleur]

If this is on a dinghy, you want the cleat to
release downward, so if you are falling
overboard with the sheet in your hand,
or even tangled around you, you want it
to release. That won't happen if it releases
up.

[JBsurfin]

Originally Posted by Sailmonkey

Typically as you sheet in you’re pulling up into the cleat. If you are unable click out of this, just remove the Allen screws and raise the cleat. That’s what the screws are there for.

That's what I thought too, change that angle to allow for space to pull down.

[kirklkjb]

Originally Posted by jbinbi

Moved the cam two notches that were left. Makes it a bit better. If not I will put in a soft shackle.

You can turn it over also. Most racing boats are rigged such that you pull up to get the rope out of the cleat. i.e. a quick kick helps if you have a lot of load on the mainsheet and if necessary you can stand up to get jerk it out of the cleat. An upside down cleat on the deck may not be safe in a blow or critical situation as it will be difficult to release.

Just align the cleat so when you pull on more sheet the rope stays in the jaws of the cleat but when you pull a bit higher the rope slides out of the cleat.

[MainMan]

Originally Posted by jbinbi

Just purchased this boat. See pic for issue. With the current length of the the shackles, it is extremely difficult to release the sheet pulling down. The sheet hits the fiberglass below.

In looking for solutions, It looks like I can
1. Buy longer shackles.
2. If the bolts with allen heads can be removed, I can change the angle of the cam so it is a bit more horizontal. Looks like there are 2 more slots to angle it up.
3. Again if I can take out the bolts, I might be able to turn this over to have the cam release by pulling up, which is what I would want.

There bolts on both sides.

Before I try taking these out and possibly ruining my block set, was hoping that someone else can tell me that it is/isn't possible to do this. It looks possible, just figure it's easier to ask first.

Thanks.

Yes those shackles take a huge load. I too straightened one of those twisted shackles on the traveller rig.
I removed the shackles and used several turns of dyneema. This enabled me to raise the block to a safer position enabling crew to 'pull in and down'. I can also manage the main sheet from behind the helm safely. It's been like this for six years now - is higher, safer, quieter.
Happy sailing !