Some Mainsail quotes

[nfbr]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

I have been aboard Razzle Dazzle many times when it was owned by Joop. Beautiful boat, most impressive mainsheet traveler I have ever seen!

Man, you're on a Dashew! Awe!

That traveller rigging was not the most usable. We are slowly making her family friendly.

Welcome to look anytime

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by nfbr

Man, you're on a Dashew! Awe!

That traveller rigging was not the most usable. We are slowly making her family friendly.

Welcome to look anytime

Yes, our boats have been neighbors over the years, mostly in Curaçao where are you now?

[nfbr]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Yes, our boats have been neighbors over the years, mostly in Curaçao where are you now?

This week, Majorca Spain. Next week - good question. Yours?
She's a little different now. Modernised a bit and a ridiculous amount of backlogged maint.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by nfbr

This week, Majorca Spain. Next week - good question. Yours?

Hiding from hurricanes in Florida, after that Bahamas

[bullislandken]

Precision Sails treated me like crap.

Port Townsend sails-Carol Hasse, now retired,makes fabulous offshore sails.

[nfbr]

Updated prices
Cliffside / Direct is way too cheap. I love the idea but it feels wrong.

[sailingharry]

Originally Posted by nfbr

Updated prices

Cliffside / Direct is way too cheap. I love the idea but it feels wrong.

Our Hydranet main was made in 2004. Better than 20,000 miles on it, including two transatlantics. Still has very good shape (according to both me and the Quantum guy who sold it and would sell me a new one if it was worn out). I'm also told that it is lighter than any Dacron equivalent (on my 43 ft mono, I can carry it and bend it on single-handed). It is certainly not inexpensive, but it is a pretty compelling material.

[fxykty]

Originally Posted by sailingharry

Our Hydranet main was made in 2004. Better than 20,000 miles on it, including two transatlantics. Still has very good shape (according to both me and the Quantum guy who sold it and would sell me a new one if it was worn out). I'm also told that it is lighter than any Dacron equivalent (on my 43 ft mono, I can carry it and bend it on single-handed). It is certainly not inexpensive, but it is a pretty compelling material.

Fibrecon may be a better material than Hydranet for a cat as the high modulus fibre arrangement is better for a radial configuration.

But the loads of a catamaran are not kind to these hybrid materials - our boat came with Hydranet sails that after 6 years and 45,000 ocean miles were stretched beyond recognition (well, the mainsail was very stretched; the self tacking jib wasn’t too bad but the leech had a big hook in it).

Rather than laminate go straight to membrane sails - Zoom should be half the price of Doyle Stratis or North 3Di (at least they were when we bought a few years ago compared with NZ loft prices).

[Chrisatlantic]

@Fxykty, not sure if you realize that there is now a warp oriented Hydranet, very different in both look and performance from the original fill oriented version which had the square rip-stop style boxes in the weave.

[sailingharry]

Originally Posted by fxykty

Fibrecon may be a better material than Hydranet for a cat as the high modulus fibre arrangement is better for a radial configuration.

Rather than laminate go straight to membrane sails - Zoom should be half the price of Doyle Stratis or North 3Di (at least they were when we bought a few years ago compared with NZ loft prices).

Our 2004 hydronet main is a tri radial. Not sure when the fabric became available.

You mentioned North 3di as a membrane sail. I think 3di has changed over the years, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. The current 3di jibs (2020) that I have are more like a sheet of fiberglass then any other sail material. It is constructed by pulling thousands of bare Dacron fibers through a glue bath and then laying on a mold. A monolithic structure with no identifiable elements. When you say membrane, is that what you are referring to? And if so, who else makes them? And if not, but are you referring to?

Zoom is unquestionably the most responsive and best priced of any sail maker I have dealt with so far. Although I yet to actually experience purchasing through him.

[FlyingScot]

Anyone else disappointed that this is a thread of useful Rod Collins quotes?

[sailingharry]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

Anyone else disappointed that this is a thread of useful Rod Collins quotes?

I think you meant NOT a thread. And every time I've seen the title I've hoped it was for a different subject! [emoji16]

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by sailingharry

I think you meant NOT a thread. And every time I've seen the title I've hoped it was for a different subject! [emoji16]

Yes, indeed I meant not a thread full of RC quotes. Thanks!

[fxykty]

Originally Posted by Chrisatlantic

@Fxykty, not sure if you realize that there is now a warp oriented Hydranet, very different in both look and performance from the original fill oriented version which had the square rip-stop style boxes in the weave.

I guess they learnt from their competitors. Our Hydranet mainsail was built in 2011 (had the original owner’s invoice) and by the time we got the boat in 2017 the shape was not good. They were tri radial panels and I wonder whether cross cut panels and orienting the Dyneema threads in the load paths would have been better suited?

We’re very happy with the membrane sails made for us by Zoom. Simply hoist and sheet - they hold their designed shape regardless of wind strength or halyard tension.

Cats are like monohull super yachts - the loads are too high for polyester sail materials.

[Chrisatlantic]

Definitely agree with that last point when talking about Maine for 50’ plus cats