This is *crazy* !

[nelly]

Originally Posted by AKA-None

You put a length of material in an instron and pull whatever rate and load you program and it will track the stretch and load
Program whatever parameters you desire
There are specifications for various types of tests

I am missing my instron on my boat, I think that's my problem! Thanks

[Lee Jerry]

Originally Posted by odonnellryan

We are obviously missing each other in our communication - what you are implying I'm saying is not what I'm saying

I'm not saying they should do anything different, I'm not saying they even can (I don't think they can) - I'm not saying Samson or other manufacturers are being misleading, or are misrepresenting their claims, or any of that. I think they are mostly great companies and their comms with the community proves that.

OK, that’s what you’re not saying. What exactly are you saying? What is your point?

(I’ll ignore the rest.)

[nelly]

Originally Posted by Lee Jerry

OK, that’s what you’re not saying. What exactly are you saying? What is your point?

(I’ll ignore the rest.)

Conditions experienced by your lines on your boat are different from the lab tests.

[Lee Jerry]

Originally Posted by odonnellryan

Conditions experienced by your lines on your boat are different from the lab tests.

That's a nice combination of useless and wrong. Or perhaps irrelevant. I want to call it a deepity, but I'm not sure it rises to the appropriate level of profundity.

[nelly]

Originally Posted by Lee Jerry

That's a nice combination of useless and wrong. Or perhaps irrelevant. I want to call it a deepity, but I'm not sure it rises to the appropriate level of profundity.

Well, at least I'm not rude to people for no reason

[Lee Jerry]

Originally Posted by odonnellryan

Well, at least I'm not rude to people for no reason

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings? Let me try again...

Originally Posted by odonnellryan

Conditions experienced by your lines on your boat are different from the lab tests.

And...so what? What info are you missing w.r.t. your lines? And what would change in the lines you have on your boat or how you use them?

[nelly]

Originally Posted by Lee Jerry

Oh, sorry, did I hurt your feelings? Let me try again...



And...so what? What info are you missing w.r.t. your lines? And what would change in the lines you have on your boat or how you use them?

Well, no, you didn't - but why would you want to?

I'm also not sure I understand your follow up questions entirely, but the only thing I'd do differently is be careful with min-maxing my lines.

[Lee Jerry]

Originally Posted by odonnellryan

Well, no, you didn't - but why would you want to?

I'm also not sure I understand your follow up questions entirely, but the only thing I'd do differently is be careful with min-maxing my lines.

I meant try again so as not to...


Now let me simplify it for you - the answer is: no, there is nothing that you would do any differently. You have all the information you need.

[alctel]

It's been alluded to by Jedi etc but a cheap(er) low stretch line like MLX3 on your halyards and reef lines makes such a big difference in performance and handling.

[nelly]

Originally Posted by Lee Jerry

I meant try again so as not to...


Now let me simplify it for you - the answer is: no, there is nothing that you would do any differently. You have all the information you need.

Now you've totally lost me.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by alctel

It's been alluded to by Jedi etc but a cheap(er) low stretch line like MLX3 on your halyards and reef lines makes such a big difference in performance and handling.

Indeed, this is being drowned out by the other posts. These new ropes eliminate most of the stretch for little extra cost and often allow to go down a size, reducing friction and bulk

[ChrisJHC]

Have a look at “How Knot 2” on YouTube for someone who spends way too much time pulling Dyneema - including various knots and splices - apart.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by ChrisJHC

Have a look at “How Knot 2” on YouTube for someone who spends way too much time pulling Dyneema - including various knots and splices - apart.

Yes, I believe this is the person from the videos linked earlier. But he doesn’t know which Dyneema fiber Amsteel Blue is so that’s the problem with these videos.

[nelly]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Indeed, this is being drowned out by the other posts. These new ropes eliminate most of the stretch for little extra cost and often allow to go down a size, reducing friction and bulk

It's also very important in systems with mechanical advantage, as stretch reduces the performance of those systems!

[nelly]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Yes, I believe this is the person from the videos linked earlier. But he doesn’t know which Dyneema fiber Amsteel Blue is so that’s the problem with these videos.

Email him: I'm sure he'll put out a correction.