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Old 27-06-2022, 23:28   #1
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What do you call these splices?

I call them dogbones for camping. What do you call these in the sailing community?
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Old 27-06-2022, 23:54   #2
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Re: What do you call these splices?

I frequently see them called a strop. (Ashley calls it a strap)
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Old 28-06-2022, 06:26   #3
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Re: What do you call these splices?

Strop.
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Old 28-06-2022, 06:35   #4
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Re: What do you call these splices?

Also a rabbit runner (two ears) among climbers. But dog bones in rope testing circles. Many rope manufacturers test rope as dog bones (if you think about, a rope is no stronger than t he best splice in any practical application).



Strop is the generic, and can include many short constructions:
* Y-bridle with 3 eyes.
* Smaller eye and a large stopper knot in the other end (works like a soft shackle).
* Continuous sling.
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Old 28-06-2022, 11:48   #5
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Re: What do you call these splices?

To some rope climbing and rope supported climbers it is a friction hitch cord
, or slide and grip hitch cord. They should have tight eyes to fit snuggly on a carabiner to prevent side loading. They also need to be flexible between the eyes to tie a reliably grabbing hitch.
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Re: What do you call these splices?

For sailing, dog-bones are the toggles used for soft (?) shackles etc.
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Re: What do you call these splices?

"Dog bones" with rings also used on mainsails to hook onto the reefing hooks.
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Old 28-06-2022, 17:03   #8
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Re: What do you call these splices?

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Strop is the generic, and can include many short constructions:
* Y-bridle with 3 eyes.
* Smaller eye and a large stopper knot in the other end (works like a soft shackle).
* Continuous sling.
I'd call the OP's image "double eye strops"
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Old 28-06-2022, 17:52   #9
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Re: What do you call these splices?

We used to call ropes with that knot configuration "snotters when loading unloading cargo ships at the wharves years ago.

That was when I was just an impoverished student working where I could. Now just an impoverished boatowner.

Maybe the terminology has changed over the years, or maybe (k)not.
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We used to call ropes with that knot configuration "snotters when loading unloading cargo ships at the wharves years ago.
Snotter tends to be more based on use than construction in sailing terms.

See, for instance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snotter
"A snotter is a rope or tackle used in sailing to tension the sprit on a spritsail, or a sprit boom on a sprit-boomed sail by pulling the lower end towards the mast. It is also used in a junk rig.
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On very small boats, typically with a single boomless spritsail, the snotter is a rope with eyes spliced into it"
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Re: What do you call these splices?

Thanks everyone for the valuable input. Time to update my tags for Etsy with all these new terms!

Yup, and realized when searching dogbones for sailing, it is hardware as mentioned above.
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Re: What do you call these splices?

Just another take on the word snotty
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Just another take on the word snotty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midshipman
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Snotter and snotty are two very different things
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Re: What do you call these splices?

Well, indeed they are, but I thought the comparison might be amusing. And also, a strop or snotter in the hands of a bosun's mate was called a starter to "hasten along" the slower moving of the duty watch going aloft, or to another unpopular task in bad weather and /or at night.
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