Anchors - Bigger is Better ?

[Kiwikat]

You've convinced me of one thing.
My next anchor will be either another Spade or a Rocna
because I can see that if I had a problem
or even a question with a Sarca
I wouldn't get a straight answer from you.

-Shas[/QUOTE]

I feel I must say something here. I had a question about my Sarca setup and Rex rang me and very kindly explained to me what I had done wrong. He did not talk down to me like I was a dumb female. He was most polite, friendly and imformative

Cheers
Lisa

[Panope]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

OH, ah, ha, sure it's totally certified.

Shas Cho,

I double checked Cotemar's above claim and he really has done his homework. The Convave is fully certified by the American Birding Association. The ABA is uniquely qualified to oversee this process with absolutely no conflict of interests. They do not manufacture nor do they market any other bird baths.

https://aba.org/

Steve

[Cotemar]

Originally Posted by Panope

Shas Cho,

I double checked Cotemar's above claim and he really has done his homework. The Convave is fully certified by the American Birding Association. The ABA is uniquely qualified to oversee this process with absolutely no conflict of interests. They do not manufacture nor do they market any other bird baths.

https://aba.org/

Steve

Panope.

LOL.

I could not have said that any better.

[Shas Cho]

Originally Posted by Kiwikat

Rex rang me and very kindly explained to me what I had done wrong. He did not talk down to me like I was a dumb female. He was most polite, friendly and imformative

I'm glad to hear it, Lisa.
I never implied,
nor did I mean to imply,
that anyone else would not get a straight answer.
It's always refreshing to receive real customer support!

- Shas

[Shas Cho]

Originally Posted by Panope

...fully certified by the American Birding Association

Thanks for the heads-up, Steve.
I would have lain awake worrying about that.

Nice boat, BTW.
The pilot house adds an enormous dollop of style to her!
It looks like you're doing a quality job.

- Shas

[congo]

Re: Anchors, Bigger is Better?


Cotemar Wrote:
The Tern anchor is not even close to the Convave anchor design, but the Tern anchor does match Congo's convex designs along with Delta and Kobra perfectly.
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Rex Wrote:

Cotemar Looks to me you will be giving the thumbs up on the Excel after all, check our patent,
In engineering terms its Concave, it is In your terms its Convave.

Wrong again Cotemar.

Congo's convex designs along with Delta and Kobra perfectly


Cotemar wrote:

Re: Convex/Concave = Convave
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cotemar
you can just have Congo make this for you in Aluminum 6063-T6.



Shas Wrote:

Shouldn't that be Titanium,
for strength and to keep the cost up?
I won't believe in it unless it's expensive.
Also, could you please incorporate a water-activated strobe lighanchort
on the Cotemar C&C Deep Diver?
When I can no longer see the strobe
I will know the anchor is truly buried!

Good job!

Rex Wrote:

Gee Shas I thought you were done with anchor Right Products.

No its not Titanium but it is expensive, all Alloy Excel anchors to suit boats up to 27 ft have shank material constructed from 7705, they are also thicker than the steel version giving them very similar strength to that of bisaloy of the steel version.

Shas wrote:
Re: Convex/Concave = Convave
And *ahem!* ...
This IS certificated, right?

Rex wrote:

Shas no the Alloy versions are not certified, we are currently exploring the possibilities of certification , a bit tricky because anchors on boats under survey work on a specific weight.

Shas a bit disappointed in your summary of my manner, I thought just maybe some of my comment you would have acknowledged was inspired by some of your own comment, just a little bit.

Shas apologies’ sometimes on this forum only last as long as it takes the ink to dry.


Cotemar Wrote:

__________________
Re: Convex/Concave = Convave
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shas Cho
And *ahem!* ...
This IS certificated, right?

OH, ah, ha, sure it's totally certified.

Rex Wrote:
You must be absolutely fascinated with Anchor Right, I leave the scene and Anchor Right is again the main meal, BIB right? Stay on track.
Regards Rex.

[congo]

Lisa Wrote:

I feel I must say something here. I had a question about my Sarca setup and Rex rang me and very kindly explained to me what I had done wrong. He did not talk down to me like I was a dumb female. He was most polite, friendly and imformative

Cheers
Lisa

Thanks for your support Lisa, really great to hear from you, I hope the anchor is everything we said it was.
Regards Rex.

[downunder]

Originally Posted by Cotemar

This is a new Convex/Concave anchor that I designed called Convave.
It is designed just for the few here that really like convex anchors, but still do not want to drag.
It has a self righting ASTM A514 = Bisplate 80 shank, as I know the convex guys do not like the roll bars. This one will be a deep diver.

The fluke is very strong, because of the unique W bend profile not seen in any other anchor designs.
The unique W bend profile fluke gives this anchor the largest surface area of any given size anchor.

This new Convave design is a hybrid Convex/Concave design that has a patent # US-willnotdrag , but I will gladly let you use my patent to keep your team safe in a 2am blow. You will sleep well with the Convave.

Congo, please feel free to make these for your friends Jonjo, Delfin and a few of the others on your convex anchor team. This Convave design will put money in your pocket for the next 20 years.

Jonjo, you like light anchors. Now worries for you with the Convave design. With the super strong and larger surface area of the W bend profile fluke you can just have Congo make this for you in Aluminum 6063-T6. Now you will have your non-rollbar deep diving light weight anchor. This anchor will be so good that you may need a few of them as they will dive so deep and hold so well that you may have to cut a few loose to go home.

Good to see you have been spending/wasting your time exploring the options of non roll bar anchors. The concept is certainly getting to you.

Don't spend too much time as you might eventually become unhappy with your roll bar.

An open mind is certainly better than a closed one. Keep up your good work and let us know your website address when you get in production.

Cheers

[Delfin]

Ummmm, not trying to criticize, but I think an inconsistency alarm might be in order here....

Originally Posted by Shas Cho

You've convinced me of one thing.
My next anchor will be either another Spade or a Rocna
because I can see that if I had a problem
or even a question with a Sarca
I wouldn't get a straight answer from you.

-Shas

Originally Posted by Shas Cho

I never implied, nor did I mean to imply, that anyone else would not get a straight answer. It's always refreshing to receive real customer support!

- Shas

[Shas Cho]

Originally Posted by congo

Gee Shas I thought you were done with anchor Right Products.

Rex, I don't even know what you are talking about.
I was responding to Cotemar's joke.
It had zero to do with you or Anchor Right.
Nor do I understand your reference to short-term apologies.
I didn't expect you to be thrilled with my suggestions,
not many people do embrace honest criticism.
I have no desire to continue arm-wrestling with you.
Can't we just call it a day, please?
I'm not stalking you, so please return the favour.

You must be absolutely fascinated with Anchor Right, I leave the scene and Anchor Right is again the main meal

Once again, I am not making references to your products.
I was still referring to Cotemar's joke.
Not everything is about you, Rex.

You do your thing and I'll do mine, okay?
Thanks.

- Shas

[Shas Cho]

Originally Posted by Delfin

Ummmm, not trying to criticize, but I think an inconsistency alarm might be in order here....

I'm getting the feeling that I just don't belong here.
People keep mis-reading my words.

Please read them again, brother:
"if *I* had a problem... *I* wouldn't get a straight answer"

Do you see that personal pronoun?
*I*, not *you*, not *the public*,
not *anyone else*, but *I*.
How hard is that?
I said nothing about anyone in the whole wide world
not getting a straight answer but me, myself, I.

Therefore it is entirely true and accurate to say that
"I never implied, nor did I mean to imply,
that anyone else would not get a straight answer"

Is that clear now, Delfin?
Can you see that there is no inconsistency?

I am not speaking ill of any person or corporation or product.
I have made a serious effort to avoid doing so.
I have spoken directly TO those for whom I have questions,
but I have not spoken ABOUT anyone.
When I say "*I*"
I am speaking about myself, and only myself.

If it still appears to be an inconsistency, please say so.
Then I will know
that I simply lack the communication skills
to effectively engage in conversation here.

- Shas

[congo]

Rex Wrote;
No its not Titanium but it is expensive, all Alloy Excel anchors to suit boats up to 27 ft have shank material constructed from 7705, they are also thicker than the steel version giving them very similar strength to that of bisaloy of the steel version.


Sorry but I miss quoted on the Alloy specs 7705 it should have been 7075.
Regards Rex.

[Delfin]

Originally Posted by Shas Cho

I'm getting the feeling that I just don't belong here.
People keep mis-reading my words.

Please read them again, brother:
"if *I* had a problem... *I* wouldn't get a straight answer"

Do you see that personal pronoun?
*I*, not *you*, not *the public*,
not *anyone else*, but *I*.
How hard is that?
I said nothing about anyone in the whole wide world
not getting a straight answer but me, myself, I.

Therefore it is entirely true and accurate to say that
"I never implied, nor did I mean to imply,
that anyone else would not get a straight answer"

Is that clear now, Delfin?
Can you see that there is no inconsistency?

I am not speaking ill of any person or corporation or product.
I have made a serious effort to avoid doing so.
I have spoken directly TO those for whom I have questions,
but I have not spoken ABOUT anyone.
When I say "*I*"
I am speaking about myself, and only myself.

If it still appears to be an inconsistency, please say so.
Then I will know
that I simply lack the communication skills
to effectively engage in conversation here.

- Shas

Nope quite clear. You are the only one who AR would not give a straight answer to. Got it.

[Coops]

Originally Posted by Delfin

Ummmm, not trying to criticize, but I think an inconsistency alarm might be in order here....

No, no alarm needed, he only said that he personally would not get a straight answer. He did not state that anyone else would not get one.

Ah, see you got it by the last post.

Coops.

[Ocean Girl]

Shas, you've sparked up the old BIB thread, ruffled feathers, and , dare I say, act like a true rabble rousing anchor nerd. If you don't belong here, I'll eat my beautiful Manson supreme . Welcome to CF