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craigsmith · 16-04-2007, 20:58

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Originally Posted by CSY Man

Check out the Dashew Bible..They talk in lenghts about anchors and the Bruce.
They actually recommend the Bruce, but tell folks to double the size due to the lack of holding power.

Not any more (click).

Sorry, couldn't resist.

CSY Man · 16-04-2007, 21:12

Well, hell....

So the Dashews are into power boats now, and they ditched their Bruce?

I just may go the Rocna way as well.
Been eye-balling all the buzz about the Rocna and as a former live-aboard with no insurance, I take my anchors very seriously.

Found a dealer here in Ft. Lauderdale that sells them Rocnas.

So if I get $300.00 for my Delta 55 over at Sailorman, I could swing the Rocna 55 for only a few hundred out of pocket.

(Craig: ya did not bribe the Dashews to get a Rocna did ya.?)

craigsmith · 16-04-2007, 21:53

Well we tried but they wouldn't have any truck with it...
J/K

No they bought their anchor. We did talk them into it.

CSY Man · 16-04-2007, 22:03

Okay Craig:

Why is the Rocna 55 lbs and the Rocna 66 lbs both recommended for boats up to 52 feet?

Ya would think a bigger anchor would be recommend for a bigger boat?

(Been surfing a couple of web pages the last few minuttes..Found my 55 pound anchor for $675..Kind of pricey, but....)

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Rocna Anchor, 25 Kg, (55 lbs)55 lbs. Rocna anchor, for boats between 39 ft. and 52 ft.Price:$write_dynamic_price('price-id3271836', 675.00) 675.00 Stock #:ROCNA25Qty: Rocna Anchor, 30 Kg, (66lbs)66 lbs. Rocna anchor, for boats between 46 ft. and 52 ft.Price:$write_dynamic_price('price-id3289093', 825.00) 825.00 Stock #:ROCNA30Qty:

craigsmith · 17-04-2007, 03:07

Where's that from CSY? Whoever it is should be linking to our sizing chart, boat lengths alone is too simple.

See www.rocna.com/main.php?section=best&chapter=sizing&page=0

You're not looking for a 33' boat?

Alain d'HYLAS · 17-04-2007, 05:00

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Originally Posted by clsailor

I carry a Bruce as main, CQR as secondary on bow with a Fortress as back-up.

see Comment of The Month on:
http://www.morganscloud.com/aacblog/

....New generation anchors like the Rocna and SPADE are a huge improvement over older designs like the CQR and Claw (Bruce). The CQR has repeatedly shown terrible problems setting in anything but thick mud—this I already knew from bitter personal experience—and the Bruce, while generally setting better than the CQR, has exhibited poor holding and a very worrying inability to reset when it does drag....

Then I fully agree with the choice of a FORTRESS as a back up.

CSY Man · 17-04-2007, 07:12

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Where's that from CSY? Whoever it is should be linking to our sizing chart, boat lengths alone is too simple.

That is from your dealer in Ft. Lauderdale.
Forgot the name of the company, but it is the same guy you can read about on a different thread here on the forum: He sold braided line to some guy in California, then never shipped the goods. The complaint is now with the Attorney General in the State of Florida.
(I offered to go over there and get him straight, but the offer was declined)

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You're not looking for a 33' boat?

Yeah, been using a Delta 55 for working anchor, lunch hook and storm anchor...All rolled into one.
See how much weight and money I save by having just one up there ?

If the Dashews went to a Rocna, I may have to go that route as well..

CSY Man · 17-04-2007, 11:00

Craig:

This is the guy selling Rocna anchors in town:

Marine barbeques, dock mooring devices, anchor chain shackle, galley kitchens

He is your dealer right....?

Not listed on the Rocna home-page as dealer.

Selling knock-offs is he..?

shellback · 17-04-2007, 13:50

I known of Fortress's reputation,

I've been roaming the web and simply want to see if there's any chart showing types of anchors best suited for different conditions. (what anchors are best for sand, what anchors are best for rocky bottoms, mud bottoms, clay bottoms etc).

My cruising grounds have a combination of sandy, clay bottoms and some areas rocky. Would rather not want to loose an anchor in those rocky areas.

BTW - I really enjoy this forum. The entire site is awesome, great bunch of people! Could easily see sharing drinks with these nice folks over sea stories!
Mark

craigsmith · 18-04-2007, 00:11

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Originally Posted by CSY Man

He is your dealer right....?

Not listed on the Rocna home-page as dealer.

No! He isn't. Was, but we cancelled the relationship. That content on his site should be removed. We will chase them about it.

The "where to buy" page on our site is complete and up-to-date, so please refer to that.

P.S. Apologies for the off-topic subplot.

craigsmith · 18-04-2007, 00:14

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Originally Posted by CSY Man

Yeah, been using a Delta 55 for working anchor, lunch hook and storm anchor...All rolled into one.
See how much weight and money I save by having just one up there ?

Eeek wow you really are doing-a-Dashew with an anchor that large on a 33' boat. We recommend a 15 (33lb) and that's conservative! Maybe you could compromise with a 20 (44)? But do examine our sizing chart.

I should say, have several anchors - you need spares - but maybe you like anchoring on 2:1 scope with ridiculously undersized chain, like Dashew!

CSY Man · 18-04-2007, 08:13

Well, tried to buy a Rocna, but no cigar: Store is closed.
The nearest one now is in Canada. Some serious shipping charges being added to the price.

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Attention!!! Our store will be closed until 9/1/2007 while we are cruising and testing the Rocna anchors. Please contact Suncoast Marine for orders in the interim.

Craig, why don't ya sign up Sailorman for your dealer in FLL?
Sailorman New & Used Marine: The World's Largest and Most Unique New & Used Marine Emporium

Getting all my stuff there, including anchors.
Ask for Chuck Fitzgerald, he is the owner.

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I should say, have several anchors - you need spares - but maybe you like anchoring on 2:1 scope with ridiculously undersized chain, like Dashew!

Perhaps you misunderstood my posting where I said 3 anchors rolled into one?
Does not mean it is the ONLY anchor onbard.
Just the only anchor on the bow, there is 3 other anchors on the boat.

As for scope: Shooting for 5:1 or more.
215 feet of 5/16" G4 chain....Just right, not undersized.

Yeah, I like to supersize my anchor: Sometimes we get bad thunderstorms in the middle of the night. Winds up to 50 knots. Folks screaming mayday in the anchorage as they are dragging up on the rocks desperately trying to start engines and reset anchors.

What do I do? Roll over in my bunk and go back to sleep. Too lazy to get up in the middle of the night.

Big anchor good mon.