New Anchor Chain

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Got it... seems fake news has been going on longer than I knew. Wired magazine had it checked by a lab: mainly mineral (baby) oil and vaseline

That was a really old and well established myth. Like 40 years.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by Pete7

I guess the first question is a replacement gypsy available for 10mm chain to fit your windlass? and at a sensible price. If not, then 12mm it is, because changing the whole windlass would be way over the top.

Pete

It's available, but it costs £450.

And I can't find 10mm G70 at a non-ridiculous price. I did find some 10mm duplex stainless for only €120 per meter. That's right - €12 000 in total. Plus shipping. Plus VAT

[uhu]

I couldn't find a dealer in Germany either, but found the somewhat disguised webshop (no English, only Italian) of the manufacturer Catene Maggi in Italy.

Ricerca prodotti

shipping varies by country, but generally around € 200

[s/v Jedi]

Yes thats the main EU manufacturer and cheaper than ACCO chain in the US. 1750 euros for 100m

[uhu]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Yes thats the main EU manufacturer and cheaper than ACCO chain in the US. 1750 euros for 100m

... that's the price without VAT - which will add another ~€400

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by uhu

I couldn't find a dealer in Germany either, but found the somewhat disguised webshop (no English, only Italian) of the manufacturer Catene Maggi in Italy.

Ricerca prodotti

shipping varies by country, but generally around € 200

This is the English version. Looks like 75m of G70 x 10mm (there are different sizes to 10mm, so car needed) is E1276 plus delivery.

Product search

[uhu]

excellent, the English version does work now.

+ yes, 10mm comes in 2 flavours, link length either 28 or 30mm.

And you'll need an extra large endlink to be able to fit an equally strong shackle - see pic.

btw. just found out that "toplicht" in Germany offers the chain at roughly the same price.
https://www.toplicht.de/de/shop/neu/...tskette-aqua7#

and the endlink
https://www.toplicht.de/de/shop/anke...kerkette-aqua7

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by uhu

excellent, the English version does work now.

+ yes, 10mm comes in 2 flavours, link length either 28 or 30mm.

And you'll need an extra large endlink to be able to fit an equally strong shackle - see pic.

btw. just found out that "toplicht" in Germany offers the chain at roughly the same price.
https://www.toplicht.de/de/shop/neu/...tskette-aqua7#

and the endlink
https://www.toplicht.de/de/shop/anke...kerkette-aqua7

The 10mm chain is €2237 for 100 meters. Yowza! Almost double the price of 12mm G40.

[chrisr]

have you tried these guys ?

https://www.lofrans.com/index.php

based in monza. supply G40 but maybe not G70

cheers,

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

The 10mm chain is €2237 for 100 meters. Yowza! Almost double the price of 12mm G40.

Normal... 100m of 3/8” is $3,300 here and that is only 9.5mm. (but I could find a cheaper source if I need).

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

Normal... 100m of 3/8” is $3,300 here and that is only 9.5mm. (but I could find a cheaper source if I need).

Yikes. I guess I'd better jump on the genuine Titan 12mm for £1200 including vat and shipping.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Yikes. I guess I'd better jump on the genuine Titan 12mm for £1200 including vat and shipping.

There’s always cheaper options but there’s always strings attached to that as well... in this case weight at the bow and/or chain locker too small to take the length you want. I could never store 400’ of 1/2” chain in my locker and the weight would be a killer too

[Andreas W]

In the Netherlands:
https://sailspecials.nl/watersportar...erketting-g40/

100 meters of 12mm G40 would be Euro 1.595,- (inclusive of 21% VAT, which in most cases you can deduct if you are not registered in NL)

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

Chile -- and Patagonia -- are also in my plans.



I did not intend that it would be in this plastic boat, but successive economic blows including the Corona crisis probably means I'm stuck with this plastic boat for a while.

In Patagonia, I think, some of the time is spent with four lines to the shore. I have seen this on images. People will deploy directly from drums set on special made supports - so they unroll as you row ashore to that rock (or tree).


https://q7m2m8q2.ssl.hwcdn.net/conte...patagonia2.jpg


So there it is not just which anchor to have but also much more rope ready onboard.


I hope you will go there. Would be interesting to read your reports. It is such an awesome cruising ground there. But too rough for us.



Cheers,
b.

[kmacdonald]

Door number three except even less chain. Put the weight in the anchor. 20 meter chain and 3-strand.