Tabarlay Knot

[Sonosailor]

Can anyone point me to directions for the Tabarlay Knot. French innovator Eric Tabarlay, who won the Atlantic competition years ago with the first foiling trimaran, devised a knot that could be used to take the strain off a rope, e.g.: the anchor line; to reset its end. I have used it and think it is great, but have lost the instructions.

[s/v Jedi]

It’s not in the books, probably because the Prusik knot rules for that function
https://www.animatedknots.com/prusik-knot

[Shrew]

A rolling hitch should also be able to do the job.

https://www.animatedknots.com/rolling-hitch-knot

[Hydra]

In Tabarly's book "Guide pratique de manoeuvre" (practical yachthandling guide) there is a drawing of a knot very similar to #1743 reef pendant hitch) in Ashley Book of Knots.

Even though I have the greatest respect for Tabarly, this knot isn't his invention. He put it back into light at at time (1978) when the science of knots was disappearing fast among boaters.

Alain

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Hydra

In Tabarly's book "Guide pratique de manoeuvre" (practical yachthandling guide) there is a drawing of a knot very similar to #1743 reef pendant hitch) in Ashley Book of Knots.

Even though I have the greatest respect for Tabarly, this knot isn't his invention. He put it back into light at at time (1978) when the science of knots was disappearing fast among boaters.

Alain

What is that initial loop knot? It looks very strange to me.

[deblen]

Looks like an icicle hitch with a few extra(un-kneeded?) turns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stSVqdQFtfs

[Hydra]

Originally Posted by StuM

What is that initial loop knot? It looks very strange to me.

It looks like a distorted or badly drawn bowline.

At that time, the artist wasn't so experienced. He is well known and respected now, after a time solo offshore racing: Titouan Lamazou.

Alain

[skipperpete]

Originally Posted by StuM

What is that initial loop knot? It looks very strange to me.

It could be a tugboat hitch, not a great knot but deck crew use it a lot... a sort of tortured bowline and usually tied with a two handed flourish and dropped onto a bollard. I’ve never seen it used for any other purpose.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by skipperpete

It could be a tugboat hitch, not a great knot but deck crew use it a lot... a sort of tortured bowline and usually tied with a two handed flourish and dropped onto a bollard. I’ve never seen it used for any other purpose.

Nothing like what I know as a Tugboat hitch -which consists of a a round turn followed by bights passed under the line and dropped over the top of the bollard or post.

[skipperpete]

Try Moana knot or flying bowline maybe perfection loop.

[Benz]

I've done this with a prusik, and a rolling hitch works as well.
There are endless variations on friction knots, and so far I think the arborists have come up with the greatest amount of different ones. It's pretty cool how they're tailored to specific applications.

[Hydra]

Originally Posted by skipperpete

It could be a tugboat hitch, not a great knot but deck crew use it a lot... a sort of tortured bowline and usually tied with a two handed flourish and dropped onto a bollard. I’ve never seen it used for any other purpose.

I disagree: the only knots shown in this book are the bowline, the sheet bend, the two half-hitches, the clove hitch and this kind of rolling hitch.

Alain

[Breaking Waves]

Originally Posted by Benz

There are endless variations on friction knots

yea, there are quite a number of options that work for this. Animated knots shows 8 and I can see they are missing at least a few.

I personally have used rolling and icicle (rolling way easier to tie, icicle stronger grip) with a rope end and Prusik & Klemheist with loops/slings (which we always had a few of lying around the cockpit.

I personally don't see any great need for an additional more complicated construction.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Breaking Waves

yea, there are quite a number of options that work for this. Animated knots shows 8 and I can see they are missing at least a few.

8 and only missing a few?
I'd hate to try counting how many are in ABOK

[StuM]

Originally Posted by skipperpete

Try Moana knot or flying bowline maybe perfection loop.

Similar, but unless it's just very badly drawn, that's not it!

(But a "tugboat flying bowline" is very different to a "tugboat hitch"