iNavX Chart Cost

[tinpusher]

Originally Posted by Doodles

Again, maybe I missing something but if the chart(s) has been downloaded and backed up via iTunes why do you need X-Traverse license to reinstall/upgrade to a new iPad. I only see a problem if its over a year and you do not have a backup.

Let me quote the X-Traverse email one more time:

"If your original iPad is lost, stolen or damaged you can use the second activation on the replacement iPad. However, if one year license period has expired you would need to purchase a new license."

I would suggest you email a concise yes or no question to X-Traverse and post the reply here. I'm tired of hitting my head against the wall.

Feel free to email the following question to amanda.holt@fugawi.com

If I back up my iNavX Navionics maps to iTunes can I restore them to a different iPad after the one year licensing period has expired? Yes or No?

[Doodles]

Originally Posted by tinpusher

Let me quote the X-Traverse email one more time:

"If your original iPad is lost, stolen or damaged you can use the second activation on the replacement iPad. However, if one year license period has expired you would need to purchase a new license."

I would suggest you email a concise yes or no question to X-Traverse and post the reply here. I'm tired of hitting my head against the wall.

Feel free to email the following question to amanda.holt@fugawi.com

If I back up my iNavX Navionics maps to iTunes can I restore them to a different iPad after the one year licensing period has expired? Yes or No?

I'm comfortable with assuming as long as you are restoring a backup you are o.k., but I've posed the question to X-Traverse as you suggested and will let everyone know what I hear back.

[Doodles]

Well, I give up. Like tinpusher I too am tired of hitting my head against the wall.

After a couple emails from Amanda all I get is a cut and paste quote from the license agreement. Here is the last (sort of curt I thought) ...

As per my previous email the X-Traverse license of Navionics charts is as follows:

"You may retain the Navionics region indefinitely. However it is only licensed for use on two supported devices, owned by you. When you make your first download to an iPad, the map region is effectively locked to that device. When you synchronize your iPad with iTunes (and provided you have enabled synchronization of the iNavX App), all Navionics charts you have downloaded are also synchronized as a backup to your PC or Mac and can be restored at a later date should you need to re-flash or upgrade your iPad firmware. In addition, X-Traverse.com guarantees to retain the Navionics regions you subscribed to for up to one year after your purchase. Therefore you may re-download any map within any subscribed region as many times as you like (onto the same iPad) for up to 1 year, provided you maintain an active X-Traverse Data Account."

For example the Navionics 1XG region for iPad is $34.99. For this price you have access to the charts for one year, along with technical support. After one year the license expires and the charts are no longer available for download from your X-Traverse Account. I understand applications are restored on new devices from the iTunes back up. However, the charts available on X-Traverse are not applications, they are licensed data.

Navionics 1XG on SD/CF card for chartplotters and PCs is $199.00. The $34.99 price for the iPad license reflects the limitations of the charts on the iPad platform and that the license is only for one year. The $199.00 price provides the charts on hard copy for future use.


Yours truly,
NORTHPORT SYSTEMS INC.

Amanda Holt
Sales Manager

The bold above is my me and in my opinion the problem area. I'm still not clear what will happen in a case of trying to restore a backup from iTunes to a upgraded iPad or a replacement, but I think its definitely a case of buyer beware. Without a better explanation or clarification from the vendor, which they do appear to want to give, I now share tinpusher's concern.

Spread the word.

[tinpusher]

I have come to the conclusion that X-Traverse may help you out but to cover their butts they have an official cut and paste response from their legal department.

Caveat Emptor!!!!!

[volboater]

Very funny. IF iPad is considered unstable USE A PC. THAT'S MADE MY DAY

[simonpickard]

Hi there,

One thing I'm trying to get my head around is how to get charts working over multipal devices.

What's I would love is to use a Mac Laptop for mina chart plotting, but have the same charts on inavx for iPad and iPhone. I'd also love to have all the routes, waypoints, etc, synced up so you can grab any of them, change something, and the others reflect this.

Any chance of this? Also... can you do this by buying 1 set of maps and using them between all devices?

Regards,
Simon

[tinpusher]

Can't do that with iNavx. Find a program that uses the maps on cd or memory card.

[GPSNavX]

iNavX for iPad/iPhone and GPSNavX/MacENC can use many of the same charts ..

X-Traverse for Mac OS X - Download Charts for GPSNavX and MacENC and iNavX

Can't speak for maps, but not aware of any iPhone/iPad that supports marine charts from a CD or other physical media.

[tinpusher]

GPSNavX, I have iNavX Navionics maps, how do I use them on GPSNavX on my Mac?

[GPSNavX]

You can use the Navionics marine charts with MacENC. If you want to upgrade from GPSNavX to MacENC please email me directly. Navionics does have separate pricing for Mac versus iPhone versus iPad platforms.

[tinpusher]

Originally Posted by simonpickard

Hi there,
What's I would love is to use a Mac Laptop for mina chart plotting, but have the same charts on inavx for iPad and iPhone.
Any chance of this? Also... can you do this by buying 1 set of maps and using them between all devices?
Regards,
Simon

Unless I'm mistaken simonpickard was asking for what we all are looking for. Pay for one set of charts that can be used in all our programs. Not buy one set for iPad iNavX, one set for iPhone iNavX and one set for GPSNavX.

[GPSNavX]

In most cases you can, but Navionics has decided to have a different price and license for each platform. Just so we are on the same page, we are talking about marine charts and not maps ..

Differences Between Maps & Charts

[tinpusher]

Yes I believe he is talking about Charts and you are correct, the problem lies with Navionics and their pricing. I am off to do some homework for a navigation course in which we use paper charts. I plan to do some work on the kitchen table, then I may work in the living room and probably finish up in the lunch room at work tomorrow. If Navionics owned the rights to paper charts I would have to have 3 copies.

[Marqus]

For all the major chart providers, I would be interested in answers to the following simple questions:

1) What would it cost me to buy licencing so that I can install and use a chart on more than one device of the SAME family (eg. install it in two iPads) at the same time?

2) What would it cost me to buy licencing so that I can install and use it on more than one device of a DIFFERENT family (eg. iPad, iPhone and Apple Mac pc) at the same time?

3) Can I get updates to all my installations for a specified period (eg. one year)?

4) If, at some future date (eg. three years down the track) I should break/discard a device I have a chart installed on, can I re-establish the "old" chart on a replacement device of the SAME family without additional cost?

5) If, at some future date (eg. three years down the track) I should break/discard a device I have a chart installed on, can I re-establish the "old" chart on a replacement device of a DIFFERENT family without additional cost?

You would think it should be real quick and easy to get clear answers to these questions for all major chart products, but from the above it seems maybe not.

Any chart vendors viewing this thread, could you please provide concise input, even if it is only for one charting product?

[simonpickard]

"iNavX for iPad/iPhone and GPSNavX/MacENC can use many of the same charts .."

How?

As far as I can tell you have to buy, wait for it..

1 chart for iPad.
1 different chart for iPhone (which is batsh*t crazy)
1 different chart for Mac/PC.
1 different chart for a chartplotter.

I can't see any way of buying for example the iPad charts and using them on my Mac?