Cruisers Forum
 


Closed Thread
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 21-11-2019, 15:39   #391
Senior Cruiser
 
boatman61's Avatar

Community Sponsor
Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 30,860
Images: 2
pirate Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_S View Post
I've read a few days worth in one go so this comment is a bit dated but going back to the furler. I have noticed in their videos that they sit forward on the tramp to furl rather than from back at the helm so maybe the route the line takes back to the helm is not the best and could be a reason the line failed ?

I'm enjoying the thread, thanks.
Its a single line furler.. being a continuous loop they don't run back to the cockpit as a rule one has to go forward to operate them.
Thats been the case on all the ones I have used.
__________________

You can't beat a people up for 75 years and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."

The Politician Never Bites the Hand that Feeds him the 30 piece's of Silver..
boatman61 is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 15:49   #392
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
Images: 75
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by StuM View Post
Or just right click in Windy and compare the coordinates displayed to the tracker coordinates, then start moving the mouse in the appropriate direction and keep right cllcking until you are close enough
looks like magic to me getting both pages up at once on the same screen
havent quite worked out how these windows work,will have to ask a teenager
atoll is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 16:00   #393
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 74
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherod View Post
thanks BW,, and then they could be cruising in a nice westerly up towards the Azores somewhere ?
Shall we guess that they'll pass north of the Azores (and of the remnants of TS SEBASTIEN) in one weeks time?
And that they'll arrive in Lisbon (Cascais Roads) one short week later?
They did some good progress today. In particular between 9 and 10 pm (GMT), with 10 knots VMG (Velocity Made Good) towards Lisbon.
Terje Vigen is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 16:07   #394
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61 View Post
Its a single line furler.. being a continuous loop they don't run back to the cockpit as a rule one has to go forward to operate them.
Thats been the case on all the ones I have used.
They can be setup to run back to the cockpit, np.

The vendee boat do it, especially ones with “structural” stays.

Our code furler (facnor) lines go all the way back.

Just need decently clean run, and custom length furling loop, so things don’t get tangled.
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 16:24   #395
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terje Vigen View Post
Shall we guess that they'll pass north of the Azores (and of the remnants of TS SEBASTIEN) in one weeks time?
And that they'll arrive in Lisbon (Cascais Roads) one short week later?
They did some good progress today. In particular between 9 and 10 pm (GMT), with 10 knots VMG (Velocity Made Good) towards Lisbon.
let's say 1130nm to Azores (Horta) and 2150nm to Lisbon?

Really hard to know what average speed to assume. A problem I am having with the routing - most difficult polar tuning I remember ever having. Usually, I have contact with the crew so know what they are trying to accomplish.

8kts .... 6 days to Azores and 11 days to Lisbon. Perhaps a bit slower and a day longer?
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 16:39   #396
smj
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 7,372
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by boatman61 View Post
Its a single line furler.. being a continuous loop they don't run back to the cockpit as a rule one has to go forward to operate them.

Thats been the case on all the ones I have used.


We’ve had 3 cats with continuous line furlers and they’ve all led back to the cockpit. Can’t see why they wouldn’t.
smj is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:10   #397
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Seattle, WA
Boat: 1980 Choate CF40
Posts: 117
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

As someone who's never crossed the atlantic on anything....

I just read that they are predicting that tropical storm Sebastien is forcast to become a hurricane as it proceeds northeasterly. Could this turn into a problem for them?
Morgali is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:16   #398
Senior Cruiser
 
atoll's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
Images: 75
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgali View Post
As someone who's never crossed the atlantic on anything....

I just read that they are predicting that tropical storm Sebastien is forcast to become a hurricane as it proceeds northeasterly. Could this turn into a problem for them?
only if it tracks north or northwest,which it is not expected to,and even then they could run away from it given enough notice from a reliable weather forcast source which they have
atoll is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:23   #399
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgali View Post
I just read that they are predicting that tropical storm Sebastien is forcast to become a hurricane as it proceeds northeasterly. Could this turn into a problem for them?
Hmmm...how to answer .....

yes it could possibly be a problem.

With the current predicated most likely track it will not be.

But such predication have a lot of uncertainty in them, and if it does something different (go more northerly direction) it could pose a problem.
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:26   #400
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

They seem to have turned back more easterly, at 10kts.

I am surprised by the course because it looks to be almost DDW, an angle which they usually don’t sail.
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:27   #401
Moderator Emeritus
 
a64pilot's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgali View Post
As someone who's never crossed the atlantic on anything....

I just read that they are predicting that tropical storm Sebastien is forcast to become a hurricane as it proceeds northeasterly. Could this turn into a problem for them?


If they had left a couple of days later it certainly could have. I believe it’s expected to be a Hurricane now.
a64pilot is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 17:32   #402
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

their course has turned more easterly, and 10kts.

The course is a bit odd because it looks like DDW, which is an angle they usually don't sail. Might be in a local wind band, or running off to fix/change sails.

Excellent for miles made good in any case.
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 18:45   #403
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 1,376
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Just looking into next week.

This sure looks more attractive than what they have had to deal with this week.

Nice simple 'green brick' highway to follow.

Click image for larger version

Name:	tuesday.jpg
Views:	171
Size:	412.1 KB
ID:	203533
Breaking Waves is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 21:13   #404
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 74
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

Quote:
Originally Posted by a64pilot View Post
If they had left a couple of days later it certainly could have. I believe it’s expected to be a Hurricane now.
Not any more, fortunately
According to the latest forecast from the NHC in Miami, Tropical Storm SEBASTIEN will not develop into a Hurricane after all. Max sustained winds is expected to be 55 knots, only for a short period during the next 12-24 hours, after which the system will weaken.
As mentioned frequently in previous posts by many here: There is a lot of uncertainty on future behavior of tropical cyclones in general, and this certainly also goes for TS SEBASTIEN.
The "forecast.predictwind.com" service has a nifty functionality, allowing you to split the screen, and to simulate the weather pattern as it progresses during the following week - with different weather models in the two panes. This image shows the situation on Sunday afternoon (GMT), and it illustrates both the uncertainty and the divergence between the different weather models:
In the left pane, is the American GFS model. The subtropical remnants of what used to be Tropical Storm SEBASTIEN "hits" the Azores (and later joins the big low pressure systems heading for the Biscay and Western Europe).
The European ECMWF model in the right hand pane shows the TS SEBASTIEN moving very much slower towards NE. This model anticipates that the system will never cross the High ridge that will develop as band from West to East next week across the Azores, and that it will more or less die hundred of miles south of the islands.


Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to execute this split screen functionality in the PredictWind service that displays the position and progress of LA VAGABONDE. (The green dots in the two panes should be disregarded. They are not the position of LA VAGABONDE)
Terje Vigen is offline  
Old 21-11-2019, 22:54   #405
CF Adviser
 
Pelagic's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2007
Boat: Van Helleman Schooner 65ft StarGazer
Posts: 10,280
Re: La Vagabonde's crossing

I am just blown away by how well you guys can display this weather prognosis data for different Met Agencies and monitor/compare for confidence levels.... Thanks Terje
Pelagic is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Big Splash of La Vagabonde new Outremer 45' Red Herring Multihull Sailboats 14 25-04-2017 13:57
SV La Vagabonde new ride Jadam79 Multihull Sailboats 184 24-10-2016 04:46
La Vagabonde - Hopeful Charity help in Pacific. gypsyvagabond Flotsam & Sailing Miscellany 1 12-12-2015 12:35

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:45.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.