La Vagabonde's crossing

[smj]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

To paraphrase .....

Whether they have sold 30,000 miles or 100,000 miles they have been a success.

Keep things in context. They are selling a dream and people are buying. Good for them.

No, All the YouTube BS to the side, they have accomplished much more at a much younger age than 99% of the sailors out there. Ad on the fact they’re able to make a living doing it. Kudos.

[DDouglasone]

Originally Posted by Exile

What's with the slights about "middle aged" people? Is there a way to find out how old posters are on CF? Do we care? Do you not like people who are older than you? Or is it a dislike for people younger than you? Confused why you think age is relevant here.

Do you know that the two principals actually own the Catamaran? Only if it's public knowledge, of course. I frankly lost interest in their videos after they took leave of their first boat so don't know if they've volunteered info about the relationship (and don't much care). I always figured they had more of a lease-type arrangement with Outremer in exchange for all the publicity, mostly from the YouTube channel I gather. Nothing wrong with that, but this is the first I've heard that they are actual owners. Doesn't matter . . . only curious.

Lol. That guy is just a Troll.

He/it enjoys being an idiot so...

Ignoring the Troll is always the best option.

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Dockhead

That's night time under way NOT on watch.

According to her posts , she and Riley are the only two doing night watches, initially 2 on, 2 off and lately 3 on and 3 off. She is definitely talking about doing those activities while on night watch.

[atoll]

Originally Posted by smj

No, All the YouTube BS to the side, they have accomplished much more at a much younger age than 99% of the sailors out there. Ad on the fact they’re able to make a living doing it. Kudos.

i actually agree with you on those points,but why lie and try to deceive people,when the 23,000 miles that they have actually sailed is an achievement worthy of respect without embellishment

[Exile]

Originally Posted by DDouglasone

Lol. That guy is just a Troll.

He/it enjoys being an idiot so...

Ignoring the Troll is always the best option.

If you're referring to Terje Vigen (who I was responding to) then no, he's (she's?) definitely not a troll (and certainly not an idiot) but one of several contributing here who has brought us quite interesting & educational info about LV's weather routing, etc. Probably just annoyed over the sidetracks, but I don't understand why "middle-aged" is a stereotype worth raising.

[Terje Vigen]

Originally Posted by Exile

What's with the slights about "middle aged" people? Is there a way to find out how old posters are on CF? Do we care?

I used the term "middle aged" because I presumed that the negative comments towards the crew members came from posters that were much older than them. I based this presumption on circumstantial evidence, among other the number of postings, the number of miles sailed, etc. But you're right; I cannot know for sure.

Originally Posted by Exile

Do you know that the two principals actually own the Catamaran?

I stand corrected once more: I don't know whether the boat is leased, or whether they have a loan on it.

[Terje Vigen]

Riley just updated their Facebook with a selfie and an interesting shot of their chart plotter:

1200nm to go! Seriously tired, but we’re getting there. #sailinglavagabonde #northatlantic

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by Terje Vigen

I stand corrected once more: I don't know whether the boat is leased, or whether they have a loan on it.

They've said before that it was discounted from Outremer. Regardless, they are in the category of over a million a year from their videos (speculation is closer to 2 million with sponsorships). So financed or not, they can afford it.

Matt

[unbusted67]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

They've said before that it was discounted from Outremer. Regardless, they are in the category of well over a million a year from their videos (speculation is closer to 2 million with sponsorships). So financed or not, they can afford it.

Matt

People get jealous when they see these guys. She’s hot, he’s hot, they have an obscene catamaran given to them. Embrace your jealousy and sit with it man. You know both these people have spent a lot of time with their heads stuck in engine compartments just like the rest of us. In many ways cruising is the great equalizer. No one looks great at 3am having just barfed over the the side. lol

That said you wouldn’t catch me crossing the north atlantic with my baby in november ever. In that regard i agree with my man atoll.

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by unbusted67

People get jealous when they see these guys. She’s hot, he’s hot, they have an obscene catamaran given to them. Embrace your jealousy and sit with it man. You know both these people have spent a lot of time with their heads stuck in engine compartments just like the rest of us. In many ways cruising is the great equalizer. No one looks great at 3am having just barfed over the the side. lol

That said you wouldn’t catch me crossing the north atlantic with my baby in november ever. In that regard i agree with my man atoll.

But that's the point... the catamaran wasn't given to them. They've paid for a healthy part of it. The implication seems to be that they couldn't possibly afford something so nice. And I just don't think many understand the income level they are at... it is staggering!


Matt

[Exile]

Originally Posted by funjohnson

They've said before that it was discounted from Outremer. Regardless, they are in the category of over a million a year from their videos (speculation is closer to 2 million with sponsorships). So financed or not, they can afford it.

Matt

Wow! Big numbers. Great that they've been so successful, although I must confess finding their earlier vids on their old Bene more enjoyable. That is, dealing with the challenges of an older boat as relative newbies. Or maybe because it was more impromptu/less polished. But that's just me.

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by StuM

According to her posts , she and Riley are the only two doing night watches, initially 2 on, 2 off and lately 3 on and 3 off. She is definitely talking about doing those activities while on night watch.

Either way it’s Social media, they are selling a product, it’s not real, none of any of that stuff is.
Surely you don’t think “reality” shows are real either?
https://www.boredpanda.com/instagram...mpaign=organic

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Terje Vigen

I used the term "middle aged" because I presumed that the negative comments towards the crew members came from posters that were much older than them. I based this presumption on circumstantial evidence, among other the number of postings, the number of miles sailed, etc. But you're right; I cannot know for sure.

My main point, actually, was why the age of the posters mattered? I don't think I've read comments critiquing any of the crews' relative youth. Maybe Riley/Elayna's experience level, but certainly not Nikki who apparently is 26.

[a64pilot]

Surely from all you have read it’s the old people that have “ruined” the world, you know, “Boomers”

[Matt Johnson]

Originally Posted by Exile

Wow! Big numbers. Great that they've been so successful, although I must confess finding their earlier vids on their old Bene more enjoyable. That is, dealing with the challenges of an older boat as relative newbies. Or maybe because it was more impromptu/less polished. But that's just me.

I don't think you're even on the radar any more. They've been moving towards a less cruiser aspirational (main youtube audience), and more focusing on the reality/lifestyle demographic. And surprise, surprise, it's been hugely successful.

The numbers they are seeing aren't coming from sailors. And they probably aren't people that would ever want to cruise. They've exited the niche sailing market and are now courting viewers that like to watch glamorous and pretty people doing pretty things in exotic places... a (hopefully) less drama filled Kardashians.

The old blog Sailing Taru was similarly successful with this market, but just not to the stratospheric level La Vaga is seeing. Their new direction is perfect to continue the growth.

Selfishly, I love it since it drives an audience that would never think of clicking on a cruising video to maybe trickle on down to us. I'll happily take the scraps if they want to watch older, basic folks on old boats

Matt