La Vagabonde's crossing

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Sure you can,... they are called "professionals"
LoL.... Circle complete![emoji6]

Touché

[Pelagic]

Hi Hartings, I think you and others are reading far too much into this whole "real sailor/professional" thing.

Some of us are just having some fun with pigeon holes and in my case, as I have no children, my aging skin is inconsequential when it comes to climate change. [emoji4]

[Breaking Waves]

Originally Posted by Hartings

the (new) suggestion that you cant be a ‘true’ sailor unless you have done it since you were a kid (and presumably are now a grumpy, old reactionary white man ?).

actually, I believe you will find that pretty much everyone here, with all their various opinions, thinks the best sailor on board was a (relatively) young woman.

[Hartings]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Hi Hartings, I think you and others are reading far too much into this whole "real sailor/professional" thing.

Some of us are just having some fun with pigeon holes and in my case, as I have no children, my aging skin is inconsequential. [emoji4]

Hi Pelagic - maybe you are right, I hope so

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Breaking Waves

actually, I believe you will find that pretty much everyone here, with all their various opinions, thinks the best sailor on board was a (relatively) young woman.

Greta was a passenger, so was Leny, but admittedly both fine shipmates.[emoji106]

[Breaking Waves]

Originally Posted by Hartings

the (new) suggestion that you cant be a ‘true’ sailor unless you have done it since you were a kid (and presumably are now a grumpy, old reactionary white man ?).

actually, I believe you will find that pretty much everyone here, with all their various opinions, thinks the best sailor on board was a (relatively) young woman.

For Riley and Elayna, I belive most here also agree . . . . that this voyage was outside their comfort zone and prior experience. There is a strong disagreement on whether it was a hmmm prudent thing for them to do or not.

G and her father don't seem to have taken much part in the sailing. I'm honestly a little surprised that G did not (apparently) take (or learn to take) watches, but perhaps she is seasickness prone.

[Hartings]

Originally Posted by Breaking Waves

actually, I believe you will find that pretty much everyone here, with all their various opinions, thinks the best sailor on board was a (relatively) young woman.

Delete ‘on board was’ and replace with ‘here is’ and you may be on to something !

[Breaking Waves]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Greta was a passenger, so was Leny, but admittedly both fine shipmates.[emoji106]

ofc . . . I was referring to Nikki.

[Budawang]

Originally Posted by atoll

i will humbly apologise if they publically donate the hundreds of thousands of dollars they make from this trip to a worthy charity

Looks like politics is still alive and well on this thread. It's a pity that most of the hot air is emanating from a handful of died in the wool contrarians.

[Auspicious]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Some of us are just having some fun with pigeon holes and in my case, as I have no children, my aging skin is inconsequential when it comes to climate change.

A case we share. The movie "Idiocracy" comes to mind.

Originally Posted by Breaking Waves

actually, I believe you will find that pretty much everyone here, with all their various opinions, thinks the best sailor on board was a (relatively) young woman.

Certainly my opinion. Ms. Henderson is someone I would gladly sail with, or buy a drink for.

[Chotu]

Originally Posted by Hartings

I have been lurking here reading what has proven to be a very enlightening thread. What I don’t really understand though is why there is this drip, drip, drip of rather snide denigration of the voyage, the participants and the message that Greta wants to get across. This snideness is very subtle as its done via innuendo and veiled criticisms (which are subsequently denied). Now best encapsulated by the (new) suggestion that you cant be a ‘true’ sailor unless you have done it since you were a kid (and presumably are now a grumpy, old reactionary white man ?). What a load of sanctimonious claptrap. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Before this thread I was relatively unsympathetic towards Greta and her agenda but the small cohort here who seek to undermine the whole enterprise in this somewhat mendacious fashion are actually making me rethink my reservations. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but I really do find it rather disturbing. Sermon over.

It's called jealousy.

[Breaking Waves]

Originally Posted by Hartings

Delete ‘on board was’ and replace with ‘here is’ and you may be on to something !

except for the picky linguistic point that she is not "here" . . . . I have no problem with that.

There is a very small handful of posters here who have experience and skillsets in her ballpark and (I believe) all of them have indicated respect for what she accomplished. It was a well-executed voyage, which was, as I mentioned above, outside the comfort zone and experience base of all but one on board. That is not a dis on anyone - I expect they would all agree, it's just very objectively how it was at the start of this voyage.

[cyan]

Originally Posted by Hartings

I have been lurking... a grumpy, old reactionary white man...What a load of sanctimonious claptrap. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

You, sir, have brought a good laugh to end this thread. Thank you.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by cyan

You, sir, have brought a good laugh to end this thread. Thank you.

I'm relieved that someone else picked up on all the ironies & contradictions (right words?) in Hartings' post.

[Exile]

Originally Posted by Breaking Waves

except for the picky linguistic point that she is not "here" . . . . I have no problem with that.

There is a very small handful of posters here who have experience and skillsets in her ballpark and (I believe) all of them have indicated respect for what she accomplished. It was a well-executed voyage, which was, as I mentioned above, outside the comfort zone and experience base of all but one on board. That is not a dis on anyone - I expect they would all agree, it's just very objectively how it was at the start of this voyage.

I don't recall any controversy over this assessment.