Maxsea TZ, NN3D Charts ?

[svfinnishline]

This may be opening a can of worms but here goes - given the choice of vector charts to buy to cross from Panama to Australia - which charts would you choose? Navionics or C-Map (Jeppesen)?

Many thanks,
svfinnishline

[ActiveCaptain]

We're a dealer for MaxSea Time Zero. They've always told us that in general, the Jeppesen/C-Map data is better. There's a comparison I made between the two in the Bahamas on a thread in this forum:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...rts-52540.html

There's sort of no question there which one is better.

[jglauds]

Hi -- I was under the impression that new charts for NN3D had BOTH Navionics and Jeppeson ... at least here in the South Pacific ...

Perhaps I am mistaken ...

/jon

[gjorgensen]

Originally Posted by jglauds

Hi -- I was under the impression that new charts for NN3D had BOTH Navionics and Jeppeson ... at least here in the South Pacific ...

No - they two are separate. The standard MM3 charts are Navionics core. The C-MAP charts, where they're available, are sold separately. This link will take you to the current Oceana charts:

Product List - Charts for NavNet 3D & MaxSea TZ : Oceania

Note that the Navionics data core and C-MAP charts are sold independently.

[ActiveCaptain]

Originally Posted by gjorgensen

The standard MM3 charts are Navionics core.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

When you purchase a MapMedia region, you select raster, Navionics, C-Map, S-57, or NOAA vector. The purchased region then has that one particular type of chart from the one producer. You can purchase both Navionics and C-Map regions and can switch displays with one button.

MaxSea has suggested to us that given the choice, C-Map data is usually better. For the regions I have of the Caribbean, there's no question about it.

[gjorgensen]

Sorry, what I meant was that the original Mapmedia charts Furuno was selling were all Navionics core. For a while after they announced C-MAP support they were labeled as "C-MAP" and "MM3" on the web site. I see now they label them all as MM3, and specify them as C-Map or Navionics. Of course you can purchase and load both.

[svfinnishline]

Thanks Active Captain - have purchased the C-Map charts and found a night and day difference to the Navionics. Currently in Jolly Harbour Marina (Antigua), the Navionics charts had me firmly planted on land, while the C-Map and boat agreed that I still have 3 feet under the keel! I had the same 'this can't be right' moment when approaching the fuel dock at Nanny Cay Marina, where the Navionics charts had us running over land to get there..

[ActiveCaptain]

Yeah, it's like I said above, there's sort of no question which one is better. It's amazing to me that Navionics can put out that data. Or perhaps it just amazing that they would take someone's money for it.

[jglauds]

Hi -- thanks for clarification; would it be fair to assume that Jeppeson are also superior for Indian Ocean and Africa? Not sure where the respective companies get their source data ... and what they do with it ...

Thanks.

/jon

[Rossmonty01]

Hope you pick some paper charts too

[svtaipan]

We have purchased a Furuno Navnet 3D MFD 8 in August 2010. We have sailed from Phuket to Kota Kinabalu return using it. (Thailand to Borneo) The Furuno derived Navionics MMCharts are absolutly useless. The major cruising areas are not even charted under 10m. Genuine Navionics charts display far more information.

[ActiveCaptain]

I have't seen the charts in that area but as a pretty active dealer of MaxSea Time Zero and MapMedia charts, we always suggest getting the C-Map data as I wrote in a previous post. What made you pick Navionics for there?

[svtaipan]

Saddly ...when we purchased the system (August 2010) there was no Mapmedia Jepperson chart for the area Andaman to Borneo / Philipines. The area was only availiable in 2 Mapmedia Navionics derived charts. We purchased the eastern end ($300 US) as we had already sailed the Malacca Straits and Thailand many years and thought we were leaving the area. Then in May we had to return so decided to purchase the West end of the route. The Mapmedia Jepperson chart is now availiable ($900US) but basicly overlaps half of what we already have so decided to add the Navionics one at $400US now. So now we have 2 useless charts costing $700US.