How Life has Changed ... Unfortunately

[K_V_B]

Originally Posted by jeanathon

Yes I did know that. Antifreeze is sweet as well which is why some Chinese companies used it to sweeten children's cough syrup sold to Panama.

Antifreeze was once quite popular with Austrian winemakers as well...

[Hudson Force]

I was cruising and living aboard my sailboat before the Clean Water Act was passed in 1972. At that time there were areas where we never saw dolphins and they are common in these places now. Slips were commonly 10 to 15 cents/ft for a transient day and $50 was a common rate for a month's slip rental. Boats were not built with holding tanks and pump outs did not exist. Sure, those were good days, but so are these!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

Antifreeze was once quite popular with Austrian winemakers as well...

And the Italians.... Lambrusco especially...
Capn58... We are having fun... just ignore the 'Killjoy's'...

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by jeanathon

Yes I did know that. Antifreeze is sweet as well which is why some Chinese companies used it to sweeten children's cough syrup sold to Panama.
Here in N.C. an expensive lead cert. is required to install a cabinet in a 20 yr. old house or risk a $20,000 fine. Meanwhile I have routinely installed new lead on new roofs in Europe. Ain't it grand when you have people that do not know how to do anything make laws for everyone?

Wow...thought this had to be a myth until I looked it up. They never cease to amaze me with there lack of respect of life.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

Wow...thought this had to be a myth until I looked it up. They never cease to amaze me with there lack of respect of life.

Guberments and Corporations n folks who chase de 'Big Bucks' respect life....??

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

Antifreeze was once quite popular with Austrian winemakers as well...

IIRC that problem (all 20 squillion gallons of it!) was solved by using it as runway de-icer.

and by feeding it to babies in the 3rd world as a supplement.........

[Celestialsailor]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Guberments and Corporations n folks who chase de 'Big Bucks' respect life....??

1)The Government of Bhutan
2)Green Peace is incorporated

[bobofthenorth]

Here's a couple of items the OP forgot: we rode in folding cloth carseats that hung over the back of the front seat of the car. And we built boats out of bits of plank and scrap lumber and then floated them in the local sloughs when they filled up from the spring runoff. OTOH father did put seatbelts in the back seats of two successive Mercury Montclairs - they came with lap belts in front but no belts in the rear. He ordered them from the Sears catalog. I guess living in rural western Canada made me a natural early adopter of online shopping - its not much of a leap from the Sears or Eatons catolog to Amazon.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Celestialsailor

1)The Government of Bhutan

Despite the democracy, Bhutan is still a regime. Bhutanese people are not allowed to marry foreigners and foreigners are denied any rights.
This is a shameful and big 'human rights' issue for a Country claiming itself as the promoter of the "gross national happiness".
Wise regime propaganda but not the truth of what the poor people of Bhutan have to live under in a regime... [end quote]

2)Green Peace is incorporated

Had to... Only way they could get the French to stop blowing up their ships..

[Tellie]

Originally Posted by captain58sailin

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[Stu Jackson]

Originally Posted by Suijin

What a load of horseshit.

Thank God that we can than conservatives for solving all those problems. Actually, we have Nixon to thank for the EPA, the Clean Water Act, etc....but of course, he was not a true conservative so let's just unwind the whole shebang, even though the benefits of all that are staring us in the face every day.

Just out of curiosity, where do you draw line regarding "sensible"?

Conservatives have changed a LOT since those days. Also remember that Nixon WAS a crook, invaded Cambodia illegally, and a raft of other "wonderful" things that he did.

Conservatives today are led by a whole bunch of lunatic rightie religious zealots. Just ask the women in Texas and North Carolina and the voters in states which are trying to implement illegal voter id laws. These "conservative" right-wingnut crazies are taking parts of this country back to the 1600s.

Back to sailing.

[rognvald]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

Conservatives have changed a LOT since those days. Also remember that Nixon WAS a crook, invaded Cambodia illegally, and a raft of other "wonderful" things that he did.

Conservatives today are led by a whole bunch of lunatic rightie religious zealots. Just ask the women in Texas and North Carolina and the voters in states which are trying to implement illegal voter id laws. These "conservative" right-wingnut crazies are taking parts of this country back to the 1600s.

Back to sailing.

And Obama will save the world by:
Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Obamacare, Benghazi, illegally spying on US citizens, IRS audits to political opponents, Eric Holder's perjury, Justice Dept. cull of AP phone records, Sibelius extorting companies for donations that HHS might regulate to push Obamacare, 823K in Las Vegas and 6 million in Disney World for government conferences, Black Panther Party voter intimidation scandal not viewed as criminal, Black farmer's scandal of millions paid to unqualified people . . . whew . . . I'm getting tired . . . and finally Obama's recent 100 million dollar vacation to Africa and his 17 billion dollar aid to African countries when the US currently has a 17 trillion dollar debt and growing . . . and Nixon was a crook and the Conservatives are destroying America . . . What planet do you live on, Stu?

[sailorboy1]

I kind of overall like the things the way they are Now!

[atoll]

Originally Posted by rognvald

And Obama will save the world by:
Fast and Furious, Solyndra, Obamacare, Benghazi, illegally spying on US citizens, IRS audits to political opponents, ERic Holder's perjury, Justice Dept. cull of AP phone records, Sibelius extorting companies for donations that HHS might regulate to push Obamacare, 823K in Las Vegas and 6 million in Disney World for government conferences, Black Panther Party voter intimidation scandal not viewed as criminal, whew . . . I', getting tired and finally Obama's 100 million dollar vacation to Africa and his 17 billion dollar aid to African countries when the US currently has a 17 trillion dollar debt and growing . . . and Nixon was a crook and the Conservatives are destroying America . . . What planet do you live on, Stu?

just goes to show nothing really has changed!.....just the numbers got bigger and the aeroplanes faster

[DefinitelyMe]

The book 'Three Men in an Boat (to say Nothing of the Dog)' is so unbelievably relevant to this topic. I recommend it wholeheartedly to anyone that hasn't already read it. I didn't realise that it was written in the late 1800's until about half-way through the book; so much of the content is entirely relevant to boating today. Below is link to the wikipedia synopsis of it. Enjoy!

Three Men in a Boat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia