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Old 05-11-2021, 09:24   #31
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And don't forget the Neosporin if you plan to be doing anything around coral heads. Ammonia works well on Man O' War stings (some just use urine) but I don't believe that anything will work with some of those other jellyfish you have. Apparently, Man O' War's are not really jellyfish but a conglomeration of different organisms all working together which to me is a disturbing thought.
Neosporin is the antibiotic ointment or “triple antibiotic ointment “
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Scissors
Waterproof Surgical tape
ABD pads (large)
Antibiotic Ointment
Tegaderm Pads (Large)
Ibuprofen
Hydrogen Peroxide
Sterile gauze patches
Benadryl
Sturgeron
Antifungal ointment
long tweezers.
A stitching kit
Sun Block

5 roll gauze

5 chemical cold packs



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Not scissors, a good pair of surgical shears! Non pointy, strong, can cut through heavy material, including webbing, like a hot knife through butter.

I actually have surgical shears attached to a bungee loop in my thigh pocket when diving as well as in first aid kit.

I am also curious about the topic of prescription medications, particular in the US or other places where this sort of thing is highly controlled.

-What non OTC meds are carried?
-In what form (Wingsail mentions injectable morphine!)
-How do you obtain it?
-Does obtaining it require circumventing controls, if so what and how?
-Do you place yourself in jeopardy of violating "drug laws" if carrying between countries for ex?
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:17   #33
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In addition to items already mentioned, we carry hypodermics, Lidocaine, suture kits, sterile gloves and dressings.

My personal EMS bag even has airways from premie to adult, an Ambu Bag with various sizes of masks, O2,regulator, non rebreather masks and O2 cylinders.

Items you hope to never need, but life is priceless !
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I am in Queensland in Australia so stinger remedies would be needed in it?
Are there locally available first aid kits suitable for sailing.
Chandleries probably have some but I have not been to one recently.
Currently nurning b8g blisters on my foot as I was pouring boiling water on jammed zippers on my day backpack. I managed to free the zippers but got a huge blister on my foot by accidentally spilling nhot water over it. So my current first aid kit is running out of big wound dressings.
By the way, I use manuka honey on blisters due to it"s healing properties.
Best thing ask your doctor
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Old 05-11-2021, 12:20   #35
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Not scissors, a good pair of surgical shears! Non pointy, strong, can cut through heavy material, including webbing, like a hot knife through butter.

I actually have surgical shears attached to a bungee loop in my thigh pocket when diving as well as in first aid kit.

I am also curious about the topic of prescription medications, particular in the US or other places where this sort of thing is highly controlled.

-What non OTC meds are carried?
-In what form (Wingsail mentions injectable morphine!)
-How do you obtain it?
-Does obtaining it require circumventing controls, if so what and how?
-Do you place yourself in jeopardy of violating "drug laws" if carrying between countries for ex?
You find a doctor who is experienced with writing subscriptions for offshore medical supplies. I believe you also need a lockable storage for opioids.

Google Fentanyl lollipop, which I think is the best option because dosing is easy. I may or may not even have some Vicodin aboard…
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I am in Queensland in Australia so stinger remedies would be needed in it?
Are there locally available first aid kits suitable for sailing.
Chandleries probably have some but I have not been to one recently.
Currently nurning b8g blisters on my foot as I was pouring boiling water on jammed zippers on my day backpack. I managed to free the zippers but got a huge blister on my foot by accidentally spilling nhot water over it. So my current first aid kit is running out of big wound dressings.
By the way, I use manuka honey on blisters due to it"s healing properties.
Try Aloe plants , always keep one growing !
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A Simple add….. pedialyte powder.
Of increased priority given the number of cruisers using RO water in tropical conditions - My wife encountered heat exhaustion in a remote location, and we had none; thankfully boat buddies were smarter than us, and simply delivered all of theirs. Took wife two days to recover.
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A Simple add….. pedialyte powder.
Of increased priority given the number of cruisers using RO water in tropical conditions - My wife encountered heat exhaustion in a remote location, and we had none; thankfully boat buddies were smarter than us, and simply delivered all of theirs. Took wife two days to recover.
What you want to carry is these: https://www.amazon.com/Rehydration-O...s%2C137&sr=8-6

It’s right in the top 3 of items people needed from our med kit.

If you don’t have these, or not enough, you can take 1 liter of water and add 6 level teaspoons of sugar and 1/2 teaspoon of salt. Stir until dissolved and it will work equally as well.

Packages that don’t state “ORS” (Oral Rehydration Salts) may not have these quantities and may be for a different purpose.
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I am in Queensland in Australia so stinger remedies would be needed in it?
I’m wondering what they use in Australia. Sting-kill ampoules is the best that we found in the Americas.
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I’m wondering what they use in Australia. Sting-kill ampoules is the best that we found in the Americas.
In Australia, "stingers" are not bees, wasps, insects etc, they are marine creatures - generally jellyfish.

The treatment is:
remove any tentacles
for tropical stingers, douse liberally with vinegar
wash well with salt water (not fresh water!)

immerse area iin very hot water
failing hot water, apply cold/ice pack.

Benzocaine etc are not recommended.


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In Australia, "stingers" are not bees, wasps, insects etc, they are marine creatures - generally jellyfish.

The treatment is:
remove any tentacles
for tropical stingers, douse liberally with vinegar
wash well with salt water (not fresh water!)

immerse area iin very hot water
failing hot water, apply cold/ice pack.

Benzocaine etc are not recommended.


We use vinegar, hot water as well, but the Sting-kill ampoules work better.

Removing tentacles is tricky, as that triggers them to sting. It took years before a scar from a Portuguese man o war blended away.
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For a burn, hold ice on it for about 20 minutes, stops the burning and blistering. It will get very uncomfortable but if you stick with it you will be very happy with the results. You need to put the ice directly on the burn immediately or it won't work.
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Keep a few 2l containers of white vinegar on board. Good for lots of things around the boat as well as for de-scaling the head pipes and for stinger treatment. Available cheaply in any supermarket.
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At a local-owned family-operated hardware store, we saw gallons of 30% (thirty percent) vinegar.
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[a...]...expedition-oriented...battle-dressing...
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[b...]...Ibuprofen...paracetamol, aspirin, naproxen...
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[c...]...staples and sutures, as well as...wound-closure products.
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NSAIDs:
I am deathly allergic to the aspirin/Naproxen family.
*** Verify every med with each individual crew and passenger prior to casting-off. ***
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Seconded on military and police force response kits.
But all that is just stuff.
Get current on skills, stay current on skills.
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Cross-train crew and passengers, so everybody can swap a fuel-filter, use radios, plot position, or craft a dandy omelette.... in the dark, inverted, while horking.
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Some vics stay calm, ready to assist/supervise their treatment.
Other vics can be significantly more dramatic.
Rehearse, practice, war-game to reduce surprises.
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Cocaine can seal a bleed.
Opioids have their place.
Pharm versions in factory-sealed packs are probably accurate in their quality and dose.
Record dose/time on the vics arm or forehead.
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