Another extreme overreach of the Government

[HuffinPuff]

Boat is not allowed to go over 10 knts within 100 nm of most of the east coast should this go through. Start writing to your congressmen.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-adminis...161137192.html

[boatman61]

My impression was its not what the boat is capable of.. its that YOU should restrict your speed to 10kts or under in the stated zones..
Its called respect for other life..

[denverd0n]

No, your boat is not prohibited simply because it is CAPABLE of going over 10 knots. This is a proposal for a speed limit. Whatever speed your boat is capable of, you are not allowed to exceed 10 knots.


Still a stupid law that should be strongly opposed. But it has nothing to do with what your boat is CAPABLE of.

[HuffinPuff]

I fixed it. I read two articles... one stated that it was boat capable... hence my comment.

[boatman61]

Be interesting to see if it will extend to commercial shipping which likely cause more lethal/crippling whale strikes than small boats.

[MicHughV]

Commercial marine traffic typically keep to some or other schedule, so hard to see this rule applying to them.
Countless fishing boats leave Florida to fish the B'mas banks, only 60 miles away, and I certainly don't see them slowing down for anything.
Your average sailboat cruises at 5-8 knots anyway, so this rule would not apply to them either.
The Cruise Ship is another marine entity which keeps to a tight schedule.
Many Florida East coast towns have a variety of fishing charters that fish the Gulf Stream or other manmade reefs, all within that 100 mile range, I don't see them slowing down.
The Gulf Stream itself is chugging north at 3 knots, so a boat going north would have to travel at 7 knots to maintain 10 knots. Likewise a boat going south, would need to do 13 knots.
Hmmmm....sounds like a politician meddling in things he/she knows nothing about.

[Pete7]

Discussed recently.

https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...st-271285.html

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by HuffinPuff

Boat is not allowed to go over 10 knts within 100 nm of most of the east coast should this go through. Start writing to your congressmen.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-adminis...161137192.html

In the name of responsible posting, I would suggest:

• Reading the actual proposal instead of some click bait.https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/natio...as---northeast
• It is only a public comment and it is not from Biden. It is from NOAA.
• Most of these are off-season, when your boat is safely tucked away for the winter. Look at the dates. Nearly all are November through April.
• Most are already in place. And they didn't bother you.
• Most of the east Coast is simply an exaggeration. Look at the maps.

In fact, this might be another case of extreme over-posting.


If you want to comment, learn the procedure, which is citizenship 102. You do NOT contact your Congressman. That is not how regulatory notice works. First, this is not a proposed law, it is a regulation, which is managed by the agency, not by act of a Congress. Second, you reply directly to the docket. The instruction are in the notice.



And none of this affects my sailing area at all.

[s/v Jedi]

Originally Posted by thinwater

In the name of responsible posting, I would suggest:

• Reading the actual proposal instead of some click bait.https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/natio...as---northeast
• It is only a public comment and it is not from Biden. It is from NOAA.
• Most of these are off-season, when your boat is safely tucked away for the winter. Look at the dates. Nearly all are November through April.
• Most are already in place. And they didn't bother you.
• Most of the east Coast is simply an exaggeration. Look at the maps.

In fact, this might be another case of extreme over-posting.

If you want to comment, learn the procedure, which is citizenship 102. You do NOT contact your Congressman. That is not how regulatory notice works. First, this is not a proposed law, it is a regulation, which is managed by the agency, not by act of a Congress. Second, you reply directly to the docket. The instruction are in the notice.

And none of this affects my sailing area at all.

The winter is the season in Florida. Also, when you don’t care because you don’t sail in the affected areas, your opinion is of little interest

[wyb2]

Given the low number of actual recorded strikes, there is probably a legitimate argument that this is unnecessary. But god, that article was just painful to read. We get it - the ‘gerd ‘derm ‘gubment is stealing our freedom!!!

"They can’t maintain steerage [at 10 knots,]" he added. "If you’re going that speed you’re going to [run] aground."

Buuulllllls*****. This regulation wouldn’t invent speeds below 10 knts, that you’ve never had to contend with before in history. If you can’t steer at 10 knts, your boat is designed wrong.

[HuffinPuff]

Originally Posted by thinwater

In the name of responsible posting, I would suggest:

• Reading the actual proposal instead of some click bait.https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/natio...as---northeast
• It is only a public comment and it is not from Biden. It is from NOAA.
• Most of these are off-season, when your boat is safely tucked away for the winter. Look at the dates. Nearly all are November through April.
• Most are already in place. And they didn't bother you.
• Most of the east Coast is simply an exaggeration. Look at the maps.

In fact, this might be another case of extreme over-posting.


If you want to comment, learn the procedure, which is citizenship 102. You do NOT contact your Congressman. That is not how regulatory notice works. First, this is not a proposed law, it is a regulation, which is managed by the agency, not by act of a Congress. Second, you reply directly to the docket. The instruction are in the notice.



And none of this affects my sailing area at all.

Here is what i do know... I lived in Florida for 10 years. Winter months is the season for sailing and many do sail then including myself when I lived there.

Performance cats can certainly exceed 10 knots. So it does effect our community.

NOAA recommends a solution and the white house executes it as it does have a potential impact on the boat charter industry.

But, appreciate your other comments

[HeywoodJ]

Originally Posted by HuffinPuff

Boat is not allowed to go over 10 knts within 100 nm of most of the east coast should this go through. Start writing to your congressmen.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-adminis...161137192.html

If you want to have an honest discussion, avoid the hyperbole. The 100-mile offshore zone is less than one-third of the east coast, and there is nothing even close to that in Florida. Three-quarters (or more) of the Florida coastline has no association with the proposed regulation, and where the SMA does exist along the NE coast it is only a few miles wide.

Originally Posted by s/v Jedi

The winter is the season in Florida. Also, when you don’t care because you don’t sail in the affected areas, your opinion is of little interest

By that argument, your status a non-citizen of the US means your opinion on US regulations is of zero interest. Stop being rude. Wink or no wink it's rude.

[HuffinPuff]

This was not suppose to be a pissing match. Just a concern. Love the passion but the bottomline is that it does effect sailboats and it does effect florida.

[HeywoodJ]

Originally Posted by HuffinPuff

This was not suppose to be a pissing match. Just a concern. Love the passion but the bottomline is that it does effect sailboats and it does effect part of Florida.

200 miles of coastline from Melbourne to the Georgia border does not all of Florida make. The SMA zone is five miles or less in width from Melbourne to Daytona, and at its widest point (for Florida) at the Georgia border, where it is ~35 statute miles wide, a far cry from 100.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewe...er/0&source=sd

[CarlF]

And boats over 65' have had this regulation for years. This just moves the minimum down from 65' to 35'.

Amazing that those boats over 65' have been able to steer