Catamaran capsize.

[daletournier]

I like Wharrams, definitely have a soft spot for them, owned one for several years...... would never have one again, sadly like my comforts way to much.

[boatman61]

I would have one again but it would have to be something like the Tangaroa or Tiki 38..
Delivering a Tiki 26 a coupla years back from the E Algarve to N of Porto kinda killed my fantasy I could live on a Tiki 26 as I did for a while 25yrs ago..

[valhalla360]

Originally Posted by 44'cruisingcat

Cats get their righting moments from bouyancy .
Flood the leeward hull and the righting moment is greatly refuced.

Yep, if the leeward hull has minimal buoyancy, it will just get pushed under the water rather than provide righting force.

In addition, the leeward hull sitting lower in the water is less likely to slide sideways in a gust.

On cats with boards in storm conditions, they recommend pulling the leeward board up. That way if the windward hull lifts and the board comes out of the water, the boat slides sideways bleeding off some of the overturning force.

Obviously, this boat doesn't have boards and the hull shape performs a similar function but a flooded hull likely has much more leeway resistance as it's much deeper in the water.

I do wonder that he "was in the cabin" when he noticed the boat slowing down. Was he actually up and maintaining watch or was he in taking a nap. In conditions bad enough to flip the boat, I would think being actively on watch is the appropriate action.

[Wckoek]

I've seen a 26 which have problems with hobby horsing, is this a problem with Wharram designs or just limited to his smaller ones?

[jmh2002]

HOW TO CAPSIZE A HINEMOA by Levi Verwoest:

How to capsize a Hinemoa - Wharram Builders and Friends

Originally Posted by Levi Verwoest

Now for the mistakes.

I continued on through the night for no good reason, to get somewhere I didn’t need to go. I had even anchored an hour before sunset to make dinner, then carried on.

i was queasy, and so not the most attentive to my boat. I am quite certain in the time it took to fill the hull, I could have averted disaster,rather than getting on deck once it was mostly full.

‘The forward bulkhead has an inspection port to allow ventilation between the cabin and forward locker. I did not close the port before going to sea.

the lashing line holding the forward hatch down had been recently replaced with a new length that was quite stiff and slippery. Only inspected it closely shortly after getting under way

my first action on coming on deck was to grab stuff rather than drop the mainsail. Without the main forcing her to capsize, I could have dealt with a flooded hull.

My Lazarete hatches had no tie downs so all of that gear fell out immediately, along with the cabin contents as the sliding cabin tops were a bit skewiff. Rather than modifying the cabintops, I had been sailing the last two months with all the supplies.

my water jugs were not lashed to the deck to begin with, I usually fill the dinghy with them.

As for making salvage easier, I should have anchored post capsize. The water is less than 20meters deep in that area, and I had a 20kg anchor set up with 100meters of 12mm nylon and 10meters of 8mm chain.

Hindsight...

This is how things go badly wrong, with a continued chain of events.

However, there does seem to be quite a few too many basic fails of good seamanship there. Pity.

[jmh2002]

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ze-210443.html

[Checkswrecks]

23 Ft boat from Hawaii??!!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Wckoek

I've seen a 26 which have problems with hobby horsing, is this a problem with Wharram designs or just limited to his smaller ones?

I had few hobby horsing problems once I got storage and tankage sorted out.. fairly easy when solo sailing..
Speed also helps reduce it..

[JPA Cate]

Apologies for the disjointed portion here: a new thread on this subject has been merged into the existing thread.

Ann

[Dave_S]

There is a Facebook thread below where he asks for people to keep an eye out for it. He's not asking for it back but I'm sure he would appreciate it.


https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...7209&source=48

[JPA Cate]

Well, it'd be wonderful if he could get it back. A tough lesson for him, but at least he's admitted his mistakes.

Ann

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Dave_S

There is a Facebook thread below where he asks for people to keep an eye out for it. He's not asking for it back but I'm sure he would appreciate it.


https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi...7209&source=48

Bit of a dilemma in my head with this as the cynic in me can visualise how this may pan out.

Firstly, shouldn't he be responsible for cleaning up his mess?
I know by law in the same waters, I have to carry insurance sufficient for wreck cleanup. (Over 15m)
https://www.msq.qld.gov.au/Marine-po...Ship-insurance


Secondly if I did find it and tow it in do you think he would have the coin to pay for fuel?

Finally, would I then be stuck with this boat that I then have to pay to dispose of?

Serious questions .

[Factor]

Originally Posted by GILow

http://amp.abc.net.au/article/10545316

Not sure if this was posted elsewhere.

Of course it was, the multi knockers couldn't wait.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Factor

Of course it was, the multi knockers couldn't wait.

WTF..???

[JPA Cate]

Originally Posted by Factor

Of course it was, the multi knockers couldn't wait.

Factor, if you take a look at GILow's posting history, he's not a "multi knocker" at all. After all, catamarans are part of the boating community, and this is in the "Our Community" Forum.

Ann