Sinking of Forever catamaran

[scarlet]

The article doesn't say what the anchor scope was. With a 2-3x oversized anchor, would it still drag if the scope was set properly? Just curious..

[chris95040]

Originally Posted by fxykty

Why do you remove the emergency water and rations?

Because he's full of ****

[Cadence]

Any lose of a boat is sad. All the rhetoric is pure speculation.

[puffcard]

Glad no one was hurt. Add another one to the pile of totalled boats down there.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by fxykty

Why do you remove the emergency water and rations?

Could be because its a ditch bag not a life raft... when you use it again you put fresh water, energy bars whatever back in with personal effects..
At least thats what I would do...

[Olorin]

Good friends owned her as "Zero to Cruising". This is a sad tale.

[fxykty]

Seems like a pain in the ass to have to resupply the grab bag for every passage - several litres of water per person and a kg or so of rations per person, for ocean passages at least. Only pulling out and replacing the documents between passages means you don’t forget to replace the emergency stuff. Or find out that the last week of parties are up all the packaged rations you were going to put into the grab bag.

How many buy emergency water packets and official emergency rations for their grab bag? They’re good for 5 years at a time and convenient, but relatively expensive. And the rations full fill the first rule of emergency rations - only edible when you’re really, truly, desperately hungry.

[morpheus]

Originally Posted by fxykty

Why do you remove the emergency water and rations?

We replenish our emergency rations and water with fresh produce for the next passage

[boatman61]

Actually protien and energy bars plus homemade trail mix.. light and enough to keep one going.. Waters the bulky item.. and much more important than food thats why I have a manual watermaker.

[chris95040]

Originally Posted by morpheus

We replenish our emergency rations and water with fresh produce for the next passage

Yeah, and this is the first thing you do when arriving at an anchorage?

I think its so sad that when folks fall on hard times the first instinct of so many people is to just start flinging crap at them. Maybe ponder that for half a second that the next time you fall on hard times.

Everybody makes mistakes, none of us are perfectly equipped to survive our experiences with 100% certainty, and theres always someone out there better prepared and smarter than you who could make similar statements about yourself and your own lack of preparedness.

Its important for us to learn from mistakes and strive for preparedness so we don't all turn into idiots, but we can do that without victim shaming.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by chris95040

Yeah, and this is the first thing you do when arriving at an anchorage?

I think its so sad that when folks fall on hard times the first instinct of so many people is to just start flinging crap at them. Maybe ponder that for half a second that the next time you fall on hard times.

No.. when I finish a delivery..
However my passport is always on my person when travelling.
But I do buy fresh on arrival at the boat.. pretty senseless carrying a full drysack from Portugal to the USA or wherever when empty it can be folded flat and packed away in my suitcase dont you think..
As for hurling crap..
Seems thats down to you with your comment.

[chris95040]

Originally Posted by boatman61

No.. when I finish a delivery..
However my passport is allways on my person when travelling.
But I do buy fresh on arrival at the boat.. pretty senseless carrying a full drysack from Portugal to the USA or wherever when empty it can be folded flat and packed away in my suitcase dont you think..
As for hurling crap..
Seems thats down to you with your comment.

I was hurling crap at a crap hurler - don't two wrongs make a right?

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by chris95040

I was hurling crap at a crap hurler - don't two wrongs make a right?

Okay.. just to clarify.. is the 'two wrongs' a statement or a question???

[chris95040]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Okay.. just to clarify.. is the 'two wrongs' a statement or a question???

You know, just so it's not lost in the noise, I'm pretty sure my 3rd paragraph up there is the smartest thing i've ever said.

[tomfl]

Originally Posted by chris95040

You know, just so it's not lost in the noise, I'm pretty sure my 3rd paragraph up there is the smartest thing i've ever said.

You mean the part about learning from your mistakes. Boaty has probably made more mistakes than all of us combined. Probably learned more than all of us combined as well. I feel confident in sailing my boat where ever I want to go. But if I needed a delivery capt Boaty would be my first choice..