Urgent help needed to recover abandoned yacht NW Barbados

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Alastair A

Please. Good mates have just arrived at Antarctica South Pole by bicycle. Keith Tuffley and Eric Larsen, plus one shy. This is not a thread interupt. Their sail vessel has has to head off polar shore for they will fly out. Cheers all. AlastairA

Antarctica south pole by sail vessel and BICYCLE is a first. It is just now! The route was a first also over new mountains for the crossing into the plateau. Well done everyone. Cheers A.

They are bigger and better men than me Gunga Din... !!!
Well done crazy peepul..

[Bleemus]

Originally Posted by Alastair A

Please. Good mates have just arrived at Antarctica South Pole by bicycle. Keith Tuffley and Eric Larsen, plus one shy. This is not a thread interupt. Their sail vessel has has to head off polar shore for they will fly out. Cheers all. AlastairA

Antarctica south pole by sail vessel and BICYCLE is a first. It is just now! The route was a first also over new mountains for the crossing into the plateau. Well done everyone. Cheers A.

Did they spot the missing yacht that is the subject of this thread?

[Alastair A]

No. They didn't spot the vessel. but they can keep this threat warm, even from Antarctica. Best wishes. A.

[barnakiel]

Originally Posted by Alastair A

No. They didn't spot the vessel. but they can keep this threat warm, even from Antarctica. Best wishes. A.

It is equally difficult to spot it from Barbuda that is a low island and where your windward visibility is maybe 2 or 3 miles only.

b.

[robert sailor]

For those that have sailed offshore you know it is rare indeed to spot another sailboat at sea. I must have sailed well over 30,000 miles before I saw my first sailboat on a passage. Height is extremely important so if your on top of a hill you will be able to see much further, at sea level only about 3 miles tops.

[DumnMad]

I heard there's only about 1000 yachts crossing the oceans at any one time and most are on the milkrun.
That puts them a long way apart on some oceans.

[robert sailor]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

I heard there's only about 1000 yachts crossing the oceans at any one time and most are on the milkrun.
That puts them a long way apart on some oceans.

Don't know what the real numbers are, maybe someone knows but my bet is those crossing the pacific is in the hundreds with many more crossing the Atlantic.

[TheOffice]

I've done 2 Annapolis Bermuda races and one Annapolis Newport race. Saw one boat for a couple hours after leaving the Chesapeake. Next was I saw was in sight of the finish line. No boats the other two.
Unless you are in a rally, its rare. In fact, during one race, one of my crew claimed to see a red running light two nights in a row. It was Mars on the horizon.
I hope AWW finds his boat intact!

[RPZ]

The 4,000+ ton MV Lyubov Orlova which broke away being towed for scrap off the Canadian coast was not spotted for two months. That was in 2013. It might be still drifting around in the North Atlantic. Somewhere.

[adoxograph]

The 55 ft abandoned Gunboat Rainmaker was found after two years drifting in the Atlantic and will be refitted soon.

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[Jim Cate]

Bumping by returning to the rudder discussion:

All that rhetoric damning spade rudders... the failure in this case had nothing to do with the ' spadeness" of the rudder. It was a failure of the blade's connection to the rudder post, and could just as well have happened to a skeg rudder, with much the same results.

Bad design and construction trumps the worries about type of rudder every time IMO.

Jim

[undercutter]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Bumping by returning to the rudder discussion:

All that rhetoric damning spade rudders... the failure in this case had nothing to do with the ' spadeness" of the rudder. It was a failure of the blade's connection to the rudder post, and could just as well have happened to a skeg rudder, with much the same results.

Bad design and construction trumps the worries about type of rudder every time IMO.

Jim

Yes but how do you determine if your rudder is of such quality?

[boatman61]

Next time your boats on the hard drill a couple of holes in the base and see if water drips out, after a while drill midway and inspect the debris for moisture/quality, sand the front down to check if there's a join.. two halves bonded together..
Nothing to stop you sanding the rudder clean then wrapping a glass and epoxy bandage around it if the core foam/whatever seems in good condition.
If not split it and rebuild with a fresh core and reinforce the join with the glass/epoxy bandage.. fair and refit.
But.. I'm just a simple geezer so could be wrong.. mayhap Mineret or another will chime in on how to do it properly.
Or.. drop it and take it to the local ER and get it x-rayed.. lol

[jimbunyard]

Just for grins and bumps, some (very) rough figures;

Global square footage of ocean............4.181 quadrillion

Worldwide total number of vessels.................40 million

Square miles per vessel, if evenly
distributed over the globes oceans........................3.75

Which would seem heartening, except that most of those vessels are tied up most of the time, and when not tied up, are operated in very limited ways and in very specific areas.

Unfortunately, I fear that if AWW finds his boat, it's going to be plain blind luck.

Of course I wish him all the luck in the world, and somewhat paradoxically (though some might call it 'semantically'), it seems his chances of finding it are increased almost infinitely by searching for it, rather than not searching...

[DumnMad]

Originally Posted by jimbunyard

Just for grins and bumps, some (very) rough figures;

Global square footage of ocean............4.181 quadrillion

Worldwide total number of vessels.................40 million

Square miles per vessel, if evenly
distributed over the globes oceans........................3.75

Which would seem heartening, except that most of those vessels are tied up most of the time, and when not tied up, are operated in very limited ways and in very specific areas.

Say 1000 yachts crossing oceans at any one time x "safety factor of 3.75" to reduce the arguement = 1 yacht per 40,000 sq.miles or 200miles x 200miles.
A lot more dense on the "Milk Run", a lot less dense in the Southern Ocean.

Fortunately AWW has narrowed the odds massively by giving a general location.