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Old 16-11-2012, 06:35   #1
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Close-Hauled Wind Display?

I am replacing all of my electronics, and am nervous about losing some functions.

I have been using the Raymarine ST60+ instruments and have always loved them. I have a separate wind display and close-hauled wind. The latter shows the AWA on a fine scale when you're close-hauled (or close to sailing DDW, which is maybe even more useful).

Close-hauled wind displays seem to be obsolete. Nowadays, it seems, you get a wind dispaly which shows True and Apparent at the same time, with different arrows, with a digital display of AWA for when you need to know more precisely.

Has anyone gone from an analogue close-hauled wind gauge to one of these? Is it horrible? I hate to fix what ain't broke, and love my existing wind instruments, but I have been persuaded that I need to get rid of everything on board which is not NMEA2000.
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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

I really like having an analogue display. The display arrow and the masthead fly corroborate one another. Seems natural.
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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

I certainly agree about analogue displays in general, and the main B&G Triton wind display is indeed analogue. But there is no separate analogue display of fine-scale AWA -- that's handled with a number.

I am used to separate analogue displays of 360 degrees wind AWA, and fine-scale wind from 0 to 60 degrees. The fine-scale wind display looks like this: Raymarine ST60+ Close Hauled Wind Display - A22006-P

I love it and really rely on it. Nervous about whether I will be able to adapt to the newer type display.

It looks like this:

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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

The Triton wind display looks like this:


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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

Why not keep the present system and get the Raymarine Seatalk Interface that will convert everything to NMEA? $150 USD rather than replacing the whole system. (I should mention that I haven't used this product. My last two boats have been 100% Seatalk.)
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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

I don't have, but am enamored with the Furuno RD33 display. It can show everything, bridge 0183 data, and even has a display showing laylines. How cool is that?

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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

Why not go with Raymarine again... They still have the older style ST60 gauges and the new i60 gauges.

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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

G'Day dockhead,

Well, here's a vote for a primarily digital display. We've used the old Standard Horizon system (which appeared under a lot of different badges) which has a fairly gross analogue display plus the digital, which has one degree resolution. Very useful when trying to sail very high.

I have found this more to my liking than my old Signet analogue( 360 degree) plus close hauled analogue (60 degree) setup. No problem in converting for us...

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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

Maybe take a look at the Furuno FI-501 Wind and FI-502 CH Wind. These are N2K instruments but retain the analog needles. They seem to do what you are looking for. I am attached to the needle too.
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Re: Close-Hauled Wind Display?

Thanks for all the good advice.

Now I'm thinking about just leaving the Raymarine wind instruments with their own masthead unit; I don't need to remove it to mount the Maretron ultrasonic wind sensor (which will give wind and weather data to the NMEA2000 network. Then it will be redundant and separate. Hmmm
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...I don't need to remove it to mount the Maretron ultrasonic wind sensor (which will give wind and weather data to the NMEA2000 network. Then it will be redundant and separate. Hmmm
Will you be able to mount them both in clean air?

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Will you be able to mount them both in clean air?

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Yes. The Maretron ultrasonic unit mounts high up on a pipe from the back of the masthead, far away from the conventional wind instrument, which is on a stalk protruding from the front ofbthe mast.
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