Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rating: Thread Rating: 3 votes, 3.67 average. Display Modes
Old 10-08-2011, 17:16   #976
Registered User
 
simonmd's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sant Carles, S Spain
Boat: 30ft Catalac 900 "Rubessa"
Posts: 876
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by Islander View Post
I agree, and I don't think there will be open wifi around forever to justify spending any more on a booster than is necessary.

Cheers
Open or not, decent WIFI reception is going to matter more and more in the future. A great deal of marinas are now seeing WIFI as important as power and water but with all those boats around, with wire standing rigging, huge alloy masts, etc, etc. reception can still be troublesome.

On my last boat, I was on the same pier as the marina's WIFI transmitter and I couldn't get a signal! That's why I got myself a booster in the first place. In these situations, a directional unit would be ideal.

However, for my present boat, i'm sticking with the omni directional for use at anchor.

A final point to add is that in this day and age, having your boat already wired up with a decent WIFI booster is going to be a BIG selling point. Remember, even dedicated sailors spend more time tied up than at sea and being able to simply plug in and have internet radio, tv, email, skype, etc. is a big plus.
__________________
Previous owner of a 1994 Catalac 900, now sadly SOLD
simonmd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2011, 17:55   #977
Registered User

Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 3,662
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

+1 on Nick's Nanostation. 90 degree horizontal beam width is conservative. Beyond that you get signal fall off but it's still better signal strength than a Bullet with an omni antenna until I get beyond 120 degree "swing" (e.g. 60 degrees off target).

It's also considerably more compact than a Bullet with an antenna. Mine isn't even permanently installed. I shock cord it to whichever side of the mizzen mast is facing land.

Carl
CarlF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2011, 22:09   #978
Registered User
 
Islander's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 166
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by simonmd View Post
Open or not, decent WIFI reception is going to matter more and more in the future. A great deal of marinas are now seeing WIFI as important as power and water but with all those boats around, with wire standing rigging, huge alloy masts, etc, etc. reception can still be troublesome.

On my last boat, I was on the same pier as the marina's WIFI transmitter and I couldn't get a signal! That's why I got myself a booster in the first place. In these situations, a directional unit would be ideal.

However, for my present boat, i'm sticking with the omni directional for use at anchor.

A final point to add is that in this day and age, having your boat already wired up with a decent WIFI booster is going to be a BIG selling point. Remember, even dedicated sailors spend more time tied up than at sea and being able to simply plug in and have internet radio, tv, email, skype, etc. is a big plus.
I never said getting a booster was a waste, I said spending more than $40-$50 was. I've never had a problem getting "local" wifi with the gear in my PC, and I don't usually have any problem with my Alfa from a reasonable distance. I don't have a need to pull in wifi from 5 miles.

Cheers.
Islander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 06:51   #979
Registered User
 
osirissail's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
Images: 2
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by Islander View Post
I never said getting a booster was a waste, I said spending more than $40-$50 was. I've never had a problem getting "local" wifi with the gear in my PC, and I don't usually have any problem with my Alfa from a reasonable distance. I don't have a need to pull in wifi from 5 miles.
Cheers.
Quite true about the need for "5 miles". The longest distance I have been successful at was off Hog Island in Grenada with the server being 0.8 nm away on Lance Aux Epines. Both the WaveRV/Capwifi and my Alpa both had no problem reaching out and getting a good connection.
osirissail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 07:49   #980
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: honolulu
Boat: S&S design centercockpit 38, bluewater cruiser
Posts: 38
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Hello, can any of these wi-fi boost ideas be used on the ipad2, wi-fi? Or anyone know of an offshore boost idea for the ipad wi-fi only?

Thanks
trimming out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 08:04   #981
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 208
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by osirissail View Post
Quite true about the need for "5 miles". The longest distance I have been successful at was off Hog Island in Grenada with the server being 0.8 nm away on Lance Aux Epines. Both the WaveRV/Capwifi and my Alpa both had no problem reaching out and getting a good connection.
I've had times when the only viable option was 5 miles away. The masthead bullet turned the trick. But most of the time our connections have been within 2 miles.

George
__________________
The Further We Go (blog)
thatboatguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 11:35   #982
Registered User
 
osirissail's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: A real life Zombie from FL
Boat: Gulfstar 53 - Osiris
Posts: 5,416
Images: 2
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

5 miles is an awful long way. Even my measured on a chart 0.8nm looks like miles away. Considering that the visible horizon at sea level from the cockpit of sailing boat is 3.25 nm away, for 5 nm the server antenna would have to be rather high up off the ground. But anyway whatever works is what you need regardless of the advertised range.

- - As to an external antenna for an Ipad see: https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
osirissail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 12:34   #983
always in motion is the future
 
s/v Jedi's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: in paradise
Boat: Sundeer 64
Posts: 19,355
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

For the iPad or any other Wifi enabled device, you use the long range radio plus a local Wifi AP like described in this thread a couple of times. There's both a solution using Ubiquity and Alfa gear.

ciao!
Nick.
s/v Jedi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 13:11   #984
Moderator Emeritus
 
capngeo's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Key West & Sarasota
Boat: Cal 28 "Happy Days"
Posts: 4,210
Images: 12
Send a message via Yahoo to capngeo Send a message via Skype™ to capngeo
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by trimming out View Post
Hello, can any of these wi-fi boost ideas be used on the ipad2, wi-fi? Or anyone know of an offshore boost idea for the ipad wi-fi only?

Thanks
I use the whole set-up from IslandtimePC for my iPad. Antenna and transmitter sit on the first spreader, router is behind my electric panel. iPad works anywhere on the boat.
__________________
Any fool with a big enough checkbook can BUY a boat; it takes a SPECIAL type of fool to build his own! -Capngeo
capngeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 13:14   #985
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 208
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by osirissail View Post
5 miles is an awful long way. Even my measured on a chart 0.8nm looks like miles away. Considering that the visible horizon at sea level from the cockpit of sailing boat is 3.25 nm away, for 5 nm the server antenna would have to be rather high up off the ground. But anyway whatever works is what you need regardless of the advertised range.

- - As to an external antenna for an Ipad see: https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
Indeed 5 miles is a long way. Like from Capt Hirams to Sebastian Inlet Marina. And they must have their router on top of their dry stack building. That one we could get from cockpit level with the cantana from time to time but most times we have had the long reach have been with the mast head antenna. There were also several places in the Bahamas that must have had powerful gear that was intended for braud coverage and when the SSID is the name of the Cay it pretty much lets you know where it's coming from! There's one part of the bay between here and Norfolk that we get coverage for 15 miles or so with the nearest land nearly 3 miles. In places where there is a lot of noise (like Marsh Harbor) your chances of getting the long shot go way down. But just outside of Marsh Harbor we could sometimes use a signal coming from Scotland Cay, right around 5-6 miles.

George
__________________
The Further We Go (blog)
thatboatguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 13:31   #986
Moderator Emeritus
 
capngeo's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Key West & Sarasota
Boat: Cal 28 "Happy Days"
Posts: 4,210
Images: 12
Send a message via Yahoo to capngeo Send a message via Skype™ to capngeo
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Routinely get signal in the Marquessas off Key West... about 10 miles over water from a comm’l WiFi company with an antenna on top of a hotel
__________________
Any fool with a big enough checkbook can BUY a boat; it takes a SPECIAL type of fool to build his own! -Capngeo
capngeo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2011, 17:55   #987
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: honolulu
Boat: S&S design centercockpit 38, bluewater cruiser
Posts: 38
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Thanks for the lead on the ipad use.
trimming out is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2011, 08:08   #988
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Paradise Island Bahamas
Boat: Amel 54
Posts: 9
Thumbs up Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

I installed the Island Time booster in May and picked up about 24 signals. It boosts the local marina signal from 1 bar strength to max 4 bar strength. I have it currently sitting on a spreader and plugged into an Apple Airport which sends max strength wireless signal through the boat and to surrounding boats, the surrounding boats comment that my boat signal is strong. I run up to 3 computers at once.
Very good product and excellent after sales service from the supplier.
Bazzas Boat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2011, 15:36   #989
Registered User
 
callmecrazy's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2010
Boat: Tartan 30
Posts: 1,548
Images: 1
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboatguy View Post
Well, after reading (partially) this thread, I think I'm going with this Alfa UDBo-nt8 unit (this seller says 2w power, but it's 1w, just because of that I'll probably buy it somewhere else) It's not the same one you posted, but an b/g/n model with 1w power and 12dbi built in directional antenna.

I'd rather have the option to change out the antenna, but for a weather resistant 1w all-in-one unit, you can't beat the $40 price That and I've been happy with my alfa usb stick so far, just not powerful enough...
__________________
My Blog
callmecrazy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2011, 17:10   #990
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 208
Re: Long-Distance WiFi Device

Quote:
Originally Posted by callmecrazy View Post
Well, after reading (partially) this thread, I think I'm going with this Alfa UDBo-nt8 unit (this seller says 2w power, but it's 1w, just because of that I'll probably buy it somewhere else) It's not the same one you posted, but an b/g/n model with 1w power and 12dbi built in directional antenna.

I'd rather have the option to change out the antenna, but for a weather resistant 1w all-in-one unit, you can't beat the $40 price That and I've been happy with my alfa usb stick so far, just not powerful enough...
Cool beans, I'll be interested to know how you like it. BTW I have had one very bad experience with that seller myself. I finally got a full refund but I should not have had to fight for it.

George
__________________
The Further We Go (blog)
thatboatguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cats Better for Long Distance Sailing? Cavecreature Multihull Sailboats 68 29-05-2009 01:05
Long distance communication MDhillon Navigation 2 10-03-2009 16:39
Long distance transport? dory36 Dollars & Cents 5 25-01-2007 12:35
buying and owning boats long distance capt lar Monohull Sailboats 10 29-03-2005 07:15

Advertise Here
  Vendor Spotlight
No Threads to Display.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 14:42.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.