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Old 10-06-2012, 19:05   #1
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3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

I have loaded (only) District 9 charts. A lot, but not all, are polyconic. The attached file, Screen 1, shows us zoomed in on Grand Marais MN. If I stay at this level of zoom I can pan around with no problems. If I zoom in one more level, the bottom of the screen disappears, as seen in screen 2. The second mercator chart, shown in the chart bar, has a scale of 60000, the second polyconic 120000.

I have opengl turned on. It seems to do a much better job of rendering, especially when panning,
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Re: 3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

WD,
try turning "Quilting" off. Polyconic and Mercator don't play well together. There's something in the manual about this..
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try turning "Quilting" off. Polyconic and Mercator don't play well together. There's something in the manual about this..
Quilting is working well in screen 1, when I zoom in there should be no temptation to quilt the mercator chart as we are looking at a smaller area on the polyconic chart. I am thinking about deleting the mercator chart as I don't think it's necessary.
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Re: 3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

WD, I get similar oddness but open GL is off. For me, it's some kind of residual effect caused by zooming in and out...these apparently aren't Polyconic though...


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I just remove the smallscale chart from quilting with a right click but I think something odd IS going on.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:31   #5
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Re: 3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

added: first noticed in the 2.6.1718 beta which I was using at the time (and she worked consistently well otherwise! per my simple usage 12-14 hours at a stretch) but the screenshots are from 3.0.
Both Portable versions.
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Quilting is working well in screen 1, when I zoom in there should be no temptation to quilt the mercator chart as we are looking at a smaller area on the polyconic chart. I am thinking about deleting the mercator chart as I don't think it's necessary.
There seems to be a problem, in the situation with a single large scale chart against the background of a small scale chart, in a transition, when zooming in. I can recreate the black area you described in many other places quilting polyconics only. It appears just before the large scale chart takes over the full screen.

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Re: 3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

I deleted the mercator and still have the problem. I tried three different harbors along the coast with the same results.
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WD, there's always the hack-the-chart solution ! simply change the "Polyconic" in the header to "Mercator" and save with a new name so as not to overwrite originals. A bunch of waypoints as comparison points will show you if the position error induced is important . Most of my Poly's are hacked this way and quilt well.
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Re: 3.0 Possible problem with polyconic charts

The "Black Space Polyconic Chart Bug" is more than annoying. In flyspray it is marked PRI=Low. I think it ought to be high. It happens in every instance I have tried. You can pan beyond the edge of any chart and the largest scale poly chart (if there is one) is not quilted.

I haven't done this on the water, but, it is possible to place the boat Icon, using a right click, in the black space. To me this means that if I were coming out of Knife River, heading South, I could sail into the blackness. Scary.

I used Opencpn (mostly 2.5) on a trip that started North of Baltimore and ended in Guatemala. I thought it performed very well. The earlier versions had stability problems, 2.5 didn't. That said, I don't think I will use Ocpn raster charts, in Lake Superior, until the bug is fixed. I can use the vector charts as long as I stay in US waters. The reason that I want to use raster charts is the Canadian raster charts are much cheaper for my sailing area, $150 vs $500.
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