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Old 08-04-2018, 08:01   #31
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Re: OpenGL dooes Not work

Interesting what one can suppose and trying to put into others words.

Are you a professional spin-doctor btw.? As you are speculating about the professional background of some "coders".....
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Yeah! Its those dumb users, turning knobs we gave them when they aren't supposed to!


Can you now please get back to the rest of the post, which is actually the subject of our discussion?

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Can you now please get back to the rest of the post, which is actually the subject of our discussion?

Thank you

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I never signed onto fixing your problems, I just wanted to amuse myself by yelling at a bad coder.

But if something as simple as an asset caching fix requires caveats about the 'abusiveness' of its use, then yeah, I'd probably be thinking rewrite. Particularly with a piece of software that the brave (or naive) are using to get home safely!!

A rewrite doesn't mean throwing everything away. I'm sure lots of pieces could be plopped right into a sensibly architected system, perhaps with mild refactoring in cases where components are shakey, too much visibility into domains they shouldn't be concerned with (aka 'spaghetti'), etc.

You are building a home. You've run out of wire and are too lazy to go to the store so you decide to use your sink drain as the ground for your bathroom lights. Years later, a new owner fixes a drain leak with a length of plastic pipe. Imagine their surprise when their lights stop working!

Pure speculation, but after talking with you I'm guessing this metaphor applies to much of your work.
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Old 08-04-2018, 09:20   #34
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I never signed onto fixing your problems, I just wanted to amuse myself by yelling at a bad coder.
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Pure speculation,......
Gives you what? Please remember that the position of the most beautiful, most intelligent and most successful Human Being is at this moment held by DT.
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Gives you what? Please remember that the position of the most beautiful, most intelligent and most successful Human Being is at this moment held by DT.


I was being charitable when i said 'pure speculation'.
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I never signed onto fixing your problems, I just wanted to amuse myself by yelling at a bad coder.

But if something as simple as an asset caching fix requires caveats about the 'abusiveness' of its use, then yeah, I'd probably be thinking rewrite. Particularly with a piece of software that the brave (or naive) are using to get home safely!!

A rewrite doesn't mean throwing everything away. I'm sure lots of pieces could be plopped right into a sensibly architected system, perhaps with mild refactoring in cases where components are shakey, too much visibility into domains they shouldn't be concerned with (aka 'spaghetti'), etc.

You are building a home. You've run out of wire and are too lazy to go to the store so you decide to use your sink drain as the ground for your bathroom lights. Years later, a new owner fixes a drain leak with a length of plastic pipe. Imagine their surprise when their lights stop working!

Pure speculation, but after talking with you I'm guessing this metaphor applies to much of your work.


Too much general allegory, no code and no pictures you suggested us to use. I’m a little disappointed. If it helps you heal your complexes, feel free to yell further, I don’t mind much.

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Too much general allegory, no code and no pictures you suggested us to use. I’m a little disappointed. If it helps you heal your complexes, feel free to yell further, I don’t mind much.

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It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you aren't able to discuss software engineering in the abstract.
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It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that you aren't able to discuss software engineering in the abstract.


I do not know if you remember, but we are not in an abstract discussion about software engineering, our patient is laying on the table. It is a trivial bug in OpenCPN and a few line patch to fix it.
If you, during this surgery, also resolve something else, better, but certainly not necessary.
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I do not know if you remember, but we are not in an abstract discussion about software engineering, our patient is laying on the table. It is a trivial bug in OpenCPN and a few line patch to fix it.
If you, during this surgery, also resolve something else, better, but certainly not necessary.


The thought of you as a surgeon is sobering.

'So then the patient tells me he tried to chew gum and walk AT THE SAME TIME!! Like duh!!! of course the kidney transplant fell out of your butt! Sigh.... These patients just don't understand how hard surgery is.'

And for the record, you began the abstract discussion when you noted 'bugs are normal'.
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The thought of you as a surgeon is sobering.

'So then the patient tells me he tried to chew gum and walk AT THE SAME TIME!! Like duh!!! of course the kidney transplant fell out of your butt! Sigh.... These patients just don't understand how hard surgery is.'

And for the record, you began the abstract discussion when you noted 'bugs are normal'.
What re you talking about now, please?
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What re you talking about now, please?


Seriously? You described your bugfix with a surgery metaphor. I made a joke about how awful it would be if someone as myopic as yourself were a surgeon.

Lets... never talk again.
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Lets... never talk again.
You will be missed, bye.
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