Weather Routing

[rgleason]

From my Log file

8:45:24 PM: PlugInManager: Loading PlugIn: C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenCPN 3.3.2410\plugins\weather_routing_pi.dll
8:45:24 PM: C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenCPN 3.3.2410\plugins\weather_routing_pi.dll
API Version detected: 110
PlugIn Version detected: 102

3.3.2410\plugins\grib_win32_pi18_v22_ov320_saildoc-zygrib_pi.dll
8:05:11 AM: C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenCPN 3.3.2410\plugins\grib_win32_pi18_v22_ov320_saildoc-zygrib_pi.dll
API Version detected: 107
PlugIn Version detected: 202

8:05:34 AM: PlugInManager: Loading PlugIn: C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenCPN 3.3.2410\plugins\grib_pi.dll
8:05:34 AM: C:\Program Files (x86)\OpenCPN 3.3.2410\plugins\grib_pi.dll
API Version detected: 112
PlugIn Version detected: 203

Attached log and setting files.
Don't know how two plugins play with each other.
Plugins are intended to be "Forward compatible".
Two Grib plugins tested with weather_routing
Grib_pi 2.02 (earlier version) API 107
Grib_pi 2.03 (current version) API 112
used with Weather_routing 102 API 102

How do these plugins play together? Neither grib works with weather_routing.
Earlier I had also tested a number of previous weather_routing versions.
Okay I have installed and tested

weather_routing_pi-1.1-ov3.3.1824-f-win32.exe 8/1/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.1-ov3.3.1824-g-win32.exe 8/2/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.1-ov3.3.1824-h-win32.exe 8/25/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.1-ov3.3.1824-i-win32.exe 8/29/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.2-ov3.3.2107-win32.exe 9/15/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.2-ov3.3.2330-win32.exe 9/15/2014
weather_routing_pi-1.2-ov3.3.2410-win32.exe 12/12/2014

None of them would run a Grib file! This is using the current 3.3.2401 version of GRIB!
Does anyone want to bet that if I install an earlier version of GRIB and run it with weather_routing_pi-1.2-ov3.3.2410-win32.exe 12/12/2014 that the plugin will run gribs?

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So the most current Grib uses plugin API 1.12 and that is NOT compatible with previous plugins and does not play well with them?
Ptizef reports that API 1.12 just added mouse support.

It would be very nice to fix API 1.12 now so that earlier Weather_routing versions work, but perhaps we just have to upgrade Weather_routing to API 1.12 since it does not work with 3.2.2 anyway.

How can we increase the API to 1.12?

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean d'Epagnier, Hello Pavel

I speak to you both not knowing which is affected by this post.

The latest weather-routing plugin that is online here:
http://opencpn.org/ocpn/downloadplugins
do not take into account all the items of the language files as in the crowdin. At least the items "End time", "Start time", "Time" are not translated.

In addition, there are several items common with those of the main file Heart O. Results is incomphéhensible in French. Users see reappear items of the new O menu bar.

It would be nice if we could solve this .... if your todo permits.

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[seandepagnier]

So the main program's translations are being used in the plugin?

What is with the "2:" in
"2: Voir" for View? Should this be the case even in the main program?

Can the french translation be updated to include the missing translation to fix "Position" and "Configuration" ?

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Originally Posted by boat_alexandra

So the main program's translations are being used in the plugin?

What is with the "2:" in
"2: Voir" for View? Should this be the case even in the main program?

Can the french translation be updated to include the missing translation to fix "Position" and "Configuration" ?

I do not have the time to the minute detail. There is too much to say.

Just quickly:

1° "So the main program's translations are being used in the plugin?" : Yes (Before, the plugins translation are used in the main program, Now it's the opposite.)

2° "2: Voir" for Wiew ? " : Yes. Try to run O 4.0 in french and display the menu bar (with the shorcut "Alt")

3° "Can the french translation be updated to include the missing translation to fix "Position" and "Configuration" " : I'll look at this more closely tonight and I will answer more carefully.

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

About "Climatology" plugin, there are two problems :
- First, the installation is very hard. I explain this in this post :
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1728539

- Second, somme problem with language file :
Here I speak only about this problem.

First, I am not shure that the french file ".mo" is the most recent. And that, because some items are translated in crowdin, but not in the mo file which is included in actual installer.

Furthermore, prior to version 4.0, when loading language files, language file OpenCPN was played first. Then, language files plugins were then read.
Therefore, if an item was present in the heart and in a plugin, if the translation in the plugin, was different from that of the heart, it was the translation of the plugin that was used.

With version 4.0, it is the opposite.

The launch of OpenCPN, language files plugins are read first. The language file, heart, is read next.
Therefore, it is the translation contained in the language file of the heart prevails.


Regarding the translation of items in the menu bar OpenCPN, all items begin with different letter.
BUT
All translations in French can not begin with different letters.
On the other hand, the items of the menu bar are also keyboard shortcuts. So I had two translations that began with "A". As these letters are also keyboard shortcuts for OpenCPN, it was very boring.

I have long sought a solution. Finally, I added a number to each item.
Therefore, the problem of the first letter is resolved. It also facilitates the use of these numméros as a keyboard shortcut.

Regarding the translation of items in the menu bar:

Alas, in the menu bar, there are items that are also used in your plugin. And this problem is certainly poses also with other plugins. Alas, I have not had time to test properly, this before the release of version 4.0.

Can, perhaps, overcome this difficulty by adding, in the item, a space at the beginning or at the end of the item. The item will then appear as a specific item in your plugin. And it will not be "crushed" by similar item in OpenCPN.

But I recognize that this is a lame solution.

I fear I have introduced quite a problem in the French version, in all plugins with my translation of the menu bar.

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean d'Epagnier,

Originally Posted by boat_alexandra

....

Can the french translation be updated to include the missing translation to fix "Position" and "Configuration" ?

I thing you want that i update the file language for weather routing. So I go to the crowdin.

I test "Position" and "Configuration". I update some items.

What do you understand by "Current configuration" ? Is it " Cofiguration of a current" or "actual configuration" ?

What do you understand by "Zero Time Step is invalid" ?

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[seandepagnier]

Originally Posted by Gilletarom

Hello Sean d'Epagnier,



I thing you want that i update the file language for weather routing. So I go to the crowdin.

I test "Position" and "Configuration". I update some items.

Great.

What do you understand by "Current configuration" ? Is it " Cofiguration of a current" or "actual configuration" ?

it would be "selected configuration(s)" and possibly should be changed even in english to that.

What do you understand by "Zero Time Step is invalid" ?

Best regards, Gilletarom.

It means using a zero time step is not allowed or forbidden.


As for the 4.0 change to translations... I did not make this but it addressed issues with other plugins and translations. Unfortunately has fall out, so unless a more sophisticated solution can be made (to use plugin translations in plugins) I think it is best to just identify which translations failed here, and I will try to be clever and rename them so that a translation can be made for the plugin that does not collide with the main program.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

[QUOTE=boat_alexandra;1728892]...

it would be "selected configuration(s)" ....

[QUOTE/]

Thank you.

In French, the word "current" has several meanings. This is not extraordinary.

Two meanings commonly used:
- Current, like a stream of water, like a tidal current, for example.
- Current, in the sense of "present" in the sense of "that is in use", in the "actual" sense.

Looking at the list of items in your plugin, I observe that some of them may be poorly translated. These are:
- "Current velocity"? as "steam water velocity" or "actual speed"?
- "Current direction"? as "Stream direction" or "Actual direction"?

I also active in doubt. I guess for the items:
- "Current Road"? as "actual road"?
- "Current time"? as "actual time"?

I guess my questions are to make you understand that I do not know enough about how your plugin. That is true. I have never used. It seems to me far too complicated compared to my type of navigation.

Thank you in advance for your answers?

Best regards, Gilletarom

[seandepagnier]

Thank you.

In French, the word "current" has several meanings. This is not extraordinary.

Two meanings commonly used:
- Current, like a stream of water, like a tidal current, for example.
- Current, in the sense of "present" in the sense of "that is in use", in the "actual" sense.

Looking at the list of items in your plugin, I observe that some of them may be poorly translated. These are:
- "Current velocity"? as "steam water velocity" or "actual speed"?
- "Current direction"? as "Stream direction" or "Actual direction"?

For Current Direction and Current Velocity it is in fact the stream of water.

I also active in doubt. I guess for the items:
- "Current Road"? as "actual road"?
- "Current time"? as "actual time"?

In this case it is the actual time, or actual route.

I guess my questions are to make you understand that I do not know enough about how your plugin. That is true. I have never used. It seems to me far too complicated compared to my type of navigation.

Yes, well that is understandable, and it is really only a first step toward computerized navigation, but I believe important:

1. I have discovered new possible cruising routes that I had not before considered.
2. I can verify what I attempted to determine just by looking at the grib, and rarely but in some cases get surprised which is interesting.
3. Some other plotting software have weather routing capability, and it is important to ensure that opencpn is the most advanced available, not lacking any features, and also has many features you cannot find in other software.

Thank you for your interest to translate.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean d'Epagnier,

Weather_Routing plugin : So I brought, reading your post, two changes in the crowdin.

Best regards. Gilletarom.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Plesa, see the joined screen copy.

You can see tha many item are not translated.

BUT all are translated in Crowdin.

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Sorry to bother you again regarding translations.

There is an item whose meaning puzzles me : "Squares at Sail Changes".

"Squarres" must be understood in the sense of "adapt the situation," "adapt the route" ... ????
What happens if the checkbox is checked?

Best regards, Gilletarom.

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

W 7, EeeePC 1015 H, 10'. 4.0, Weather_routing.

I opened the window (see screenshot). But on my screen, its height is too great. And it is impossible to move up. Therefore, if any of the buttons "OK" or "Cancel" or other down the window, I find it completely impossible to have access to these buttons.

You can fix this bug? Thank you in advance.

Best regards. Gilletarom

[Gilletarom]

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Why not "Yellow submarine" or "Beattle boat" or ...

See screen copy.

[seandepagnier]

Originally Posted by Gilletarom

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Sorry to bother you again regarding translations.

There is an item whose meaning puzzles me : "Squares at Sail Changes".

"Squarres" must be understood in the sense of "adapt the situation," "adapt the route" ... ????
What happens if the checkbox is checked?

Best regards, Gilletarom.

If the sailplan changes along the route, a square is rendered on the chart. Perhaps this is confusing in any language and the sentence should be modified.

Originally Posted by Gilletarom

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

W 7, EeeePC 1015 H, 10'. 4.0, Weather_routing.

I opened the window (see screenshot). But on my screen, its height is too great. And it is impossible to move up. Therefore, if any of the buttons "OK" or "Cancel" or other down the window, I find it completely impossible to have access to these buttons.

You can fix this bug? Thank you in advance.

Best regards. Gilletarom

Yes, I will try to fix the bug with either a scroll window or re-arrangement.

Originally Posted by Gilletarom

Hello Sean D'Epagnier,

Why not "Yellow submarine" or "Beattle boat" or ...

See screen copy.

Maybe. Now you are getting into the bits of the plugin which are not fully functional or implemented, so for translation purposes probably irrelevant. Eventually if I don't finish these parts they should be removed.