where did the grib viewer go??

[transmitterdan]

Originally Posted by farotherside

[root@xwing] ~ # cat /etc/os-release 
NAME="Ubuntu"
VERSION="18.04.4 LTS (Bionic Beaver)"
ID=ubuntu
ID_LIKE=debian
PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS"
VERSION_ID="18.04"
HOME_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://help.ubuntu.com/"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"
PRIVACY_POLICY_URL="https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/privacy-policy"
VERSION_CODENAME=bionic
UBUNTU_CODENAME=bionic
[root@xwing] ~ #

bog-standard Ubuntu 18.04, as stated.

If you want help there is no point in getting snippy.

I can't tell for sure but one theory is you may have installed a version of wxWidgets that uses GTK3. OpenCPN V5.0 was not compiled for GTK3. Rather it was compiled for GTK2. The next release will have both GTK2 and GTK3 versions available.

Post the output of these commands:

dpkg -l "*libwx* | grep ii

dpkg -l "*gtk*" | grep ii

[transmitterdan]

Also post output from this:

apt-cache depends opencpn

[farotherside]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

If you want help there is no point in getting snippy.

I can't tell for sure but one theory is you may have installed a version of wxWidgets that uses GTK3. OpenCPN V5.0 was not compiled for GTK3. Rather it was compiled for GTK2. The next release will have both GTK2 and GTK3 versions available.

Post the output of these commands:

dpkg -l "*libwx* | grep ii

dpkg -l "*gtk*" | grep ii

interesting. Ubuntu 18.04 LTS has wxWidgets support for GTK3 and python-wxgtk3.0 (and even python-wxgtk4.0), but not GTK2.

I tracked down and installed some packages for libwxbase2.8-0 and libwxgtk2.8-0, but it did not change the behaviour.

here's the outputs you requested:

[root@xwing] ~ # dpkg -l "*libwx*"
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name                                Version                Architecture           Description
+++-===================================-======================-======================-===========================================================================
un  libwxbase3.0-0                      <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  libwxbase3.0-0v5:amd64              3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxBase library (runtime) - non-GUI support classes of wxWidgets toolkit
ii  libwxbase3.0-dev                    3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxBase library (development) - non-GUI support classes of wxWidgets toolkit
ii  libwxgtk-media3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64    3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 media library runtime)
ii  libwxgtk-webview3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64  3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 webview library runtime)
un  libwxgtk3.0-0                       <none>                 <none>                 (no description available)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-0v5:amd64               3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-dev                     3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64          3.0.4+dfsg-3           amd64                  wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 runtime)
[root@xwing] ~ # dpkg -l "*gtk*" | grep ii
ii  apport-gtk                         2.20.9-0ubuntu7.11              all          GTK+ frontend for the apport crash report system
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0:amd64               3.22.30-1ubuntu4                amd64        GTK+ graphical user interface library -- gir bindings
ii  gir1.2-gtksource-3.0:amd64         3.24.7-1                        amd64        gir files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0:amd64 2.26.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1         amd64        JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+ - GObject introspection data
ii  gstreamer1.0-gtk3:amd64            1.14.5-0ubuntu1~18.04.1         amd64        GStreamer plugin for GTK+3
ii  gtk-update-icon-cache              3.22.30-1ubuntu4                amd64        icon theme caching utility
ii  gtk2-engines-murrine:amd64         0.98.2-2ubuntu1                 amd64        cairo-based gtk+-2.0 theme engine
ii  gtk2-engines-pixbuf:amd64          2.24.32-1ubuntu1                amd64        pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
ii  ibus-gtk:amd64                     1.5.17-3ubuntu5.2               amd64        Intelligent Input Bus - GTK+2 support
ii  ibus-gtk3:amd64                    1.5.17-3ubuntu5.2               amd64        Intelligent Input Bus - GTK+3 support
ii  libavahi-ui-gtk3-0:amd64           0.7-3.1ubuntu1.2                amd64        Avahi GTK+ User interface library for GTK3
ii  libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64       0.30-5ubuntu1                   amd64        translates GTK+ widgets signals to event sounds
ii  libcanberra-gtk0:amd64             0.30-5ubuntu1                   amd64        GTK+ helper for playing widget event sounds with libcanberra
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-0:amd64           0.30-5ubuntu1                   amd64        GTK+ 3.0 helper for playing widget event sounds with libcanberra
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-module:amd64      0.30-5ubuntu1                   amd64        translates GTK3 widgets signals to event sounds
ii  libcheese-gtk25:amd64              3.28.0-1ubuntu1                 amd64        tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam - widgets
ii  libclutter-gtk-1.0-0:amd64         1.8.4-3                         amd64        Open GL based interactive canvas library GTK+ widget
ii  libcolord-gtk1:amd64               0.1.26-2                        amd64        GTK+ convenience library for interacting with colord
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk3-4:amd64           16.04.1+18.04.20171206-0ubuntu2 amd64        library for passing menus over DBus - GTK+ version
ii  libdbusmenu-gtk4:amd64             16.04.1+18.04.20171206-0ubuntu2 amd64        library for passing menus over DBus - GTK+ version
ii  libgtk-3-0:amd64                   3.22.30-1ubuntu4                amd64        GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-bin                       3.22.30-1ubuntu4                amd64        programs for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-common                    3.22.30-1ubuntu4                all          common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-0:amd64                  2.24.32-1ubuntu1                amd64        GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-bin                      2.24.32-1ubuntu1                amd64        programs for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-common                   2.24.32-1ubuntu1                all          common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk3-perl                       0.032-1                         all          Perl bindings for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtkmm-2.4-1v5:amd64             1:2.24.5-2                      amd64        C++ wrappers for GTK+ (shared libraries)
ii  libgtkmm-3.0-1v5:amd64             3.22.2-2                        amd64        C++ wrappers for GTK+ (shared libraries)
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-1:amd64       3.24.7-1                        amd64        shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-common        3.24.7-1                        all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18:amd64  2.26.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1         amd64        JavaScript engine library from WebKitGTK+
ii  libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37:amd64         2.26.4-0ubuntu0.18.04.1         amd64        Web content engine library for GTK+
ii  libwmf0.2-7-gtk                    0.2.8.4-12                      amd64        Windows metafile conversion library
ii  libwxgtk-media3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64   3.0.4+dfsg-3                    amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 media library runtime)
ii  libwxgtk-webview3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64 3.0.4+dfsg-3                    amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 webview library runtime)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-0v5:amd64              3.0.4+dfsg-3                    amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ runtime)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-dev                    3.0.4+dfsg-3                    amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ development)
ii  libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5:amd64         3.0.4+dfsg-3                    amd64        wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (GTK+ 3 runtime)
ii  python-gtk2                        2.24.0-5.1ubuntu2               amd64        Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set
ii  python-wxgtk-media4.0              4.0.1+dfsg-2                    amd64        Python interface to the wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit (wx.media)
ii  python-wxgtk3.0                    3.0.2.0+dfsg-7                  amd64        Python interface to the wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit
ii  python-wxgtk4.0                    4.0.1+dfsg-2                    amd64        Python interface to the wxWidgets Cross-platform C++ GUI toolkit
ii  python3-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets      1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu19.2        all          Python 3 GTK+ 3 widgets to run an aptdaemon client
ii  qt5-gtk-platformtheme:amd64        5.9.5+dfsg-0ubuntu2.5           amd64        Qt 5 GTK+ 3 platform theme
ii  software-properties-gtk            0.96.24.32.12                   all          manage the repositories that you install software from (gtk)
ii  transmission-gtk                   2.92-3ubuntu2                   amd64        lightweight BitTorrent client (GTK+ interface)
ii  ubuntu-release-upgrader-gtk        1:18.04.37                      all          manage release upgrades
ii  usb-creator-gtk                    0.3.5ubuntu18.04.2              amd64        create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (for GNOME)
ii  xdg-desktop-portal-gtk             1.0.2-0ubuntu1.1                amd64        GTK+/GNOME portal backend for xdg-desktop-portal
ii  xdg-user-dirs-gtk                  0.10-2                          amd64        tool to manage well known user directories (Gtk extension)
[root@xwing] ~ #

[root@xwing] ~ # apt-cache depends opencpn
opencpn
  Depends: libarchive13
  Depends: libbz2-1.0
  Depends: libc6
  Depends: libcairo2
  Depends: libcurl4
  Depends: libexpat1
  Depends: libgcc1
  Depends: libgl1
  Depends: libglib2.0-0
  Depends: liblzma5
  Depends: libpango-1.0-0
  Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0
  Depends: libportaudio2
  Depends: libstdc++6
  Depends: libtinyxml2.6.2v5
  Depends: libwxbase3.0-0v5
  Depends: libwxgtk3.0-0v5
  Depends: libx11-6
  Depends: zlib1g
  Depends: wx3.0-i18n
  Depends: opencpn-tcdata
  Depends: opencpn-gshhs-low
  Conflicts: <opencpn-plugin-chartdldr>
  Conflicts: <opencpn-plugin-wmm>
  Recommends: xcalib
  Recommends: xdg-utils
  Recommends: opencpn-doc
  Recommends: opencpn-gshhs-crude
  Recommends: opencpn-gshhs-intermediate
  Recommends: opencpn-gshhs-high
  Recommends: opencpn-gshhs-full
  Replaces: <opencpn-plugin-chartdldr>
    opencpn
  Replaces: <opencpn-plugin-wmm>
    opencpn
[root@xwing] ~ #

[transmitterdan]

First, in situations like this random “rip and install” techniques can greatly cloud the issue. It is almost a universal truth that deleting and installing programs will not produce a solution. If anything it usually makes things worse. Installing wx2.8 will not solve anything I think.

Now that we know your system does not have gtk2 I would guess this is most likely the issue. It may be a solution to install the beta copy of next release of OpenCPN. There is a gtk3 version coming. If you want to try that let me know.

[farotherside]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

First, in situations like this random “rip and install” techniques can greatly cloud the issue. It is almost a universal truth that deleting and installing programs will not produce a solution. If anything it usually makes things worse. Installing wx2.8 will not solve anything I think.

Now that we know your system does not have gtk2 I would guess this is most likely the issue. It may be a solution to install the beta copy of next release of OpenCPN. There is a gtk3 version coming. If you want to try that let me know.

condescension is about as helpful as snippyness.

do you have access to a PPA with beta .deb packages for Ubuntu? I'd be very happy to give it a try, but honestly, after a 22 year career as a Linux systems engineer, I just don't get any joy from building software from scratch anymore, and I have zero interest in turning my single "production" server into a development environment.

honestly, I'll probably just wait for the next release. I'll file an issue on github that some of the current release plugins don't work on the current stable release of Ubuntu.

[transmitterdan]

The development team is well aware of the Linux version issues. Yes, there is a beta PPA. It was announced some time ago here in the forum.

[Moo]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

The development team is well aware of the Linux version issues. Yes, there is a beta PPA. It was announced some time ago here in the forum.

But for some reason not listed on the download page under beta releases at least not last time I looked a day or so back. Unless one has been following all the threads here finding the right discussion containing a ppa announcement is bloody difficult.

[cagney]

To be clear. There is no beta released, yet.
Dave will announce when the first beta is available for general testing.
What we have now is more developing snapshots, no formal release of any kind.
Read more here https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ew-227965.html

Thomas

[transmitterdan]

Originally Posted by farotherside

condescension is about as helpful as snippyness.

do you have access to a PPA with beta .deb packages for Ubuntu? I'd be very happy to give it a try, but honestly, after a 22 year career as a Linux systems engineer, I just don't get any joy from building software from scratch anymore, and I have zero interest in turning my single "production" server into a development environment.

honestly, I'll probably just wait for the next release. I'll file an issue on github that some of the current release plugins don't work on the current stable release of Ubuntu.

I'm sorry you read condescension into my post. It was not intentional. Many other users read these threads and it may help a person with similar issues. It almost never helps to uninstall/reinstall especially now-a-days in Linux and Windows 10. And it can actually make it harder to diagnose problems when manual uninstall efforts obscure the root problem or, more often, cause new problems that did not yet exist.

The launchpad PPA repository has a bionic version which is what should have installed using apt. That version should work with a standard bionic release which is the distro name for LTS 18.04.

So I don't think this is an issue with OpenCPN or the grib viewer plugin. Many other users run bionic distribution and do not report any errors like this.

[farotherside]

Originally Posted by transmitterdan

I'm sorry you read condescension into my post. It was not intentional. Many other users read these threads and it may help a person with similar issues. It almost never helps to uninstall/reinstall especially now-a-days in Linux and Windows 10. And it can actually make it harder to diagnose problems when manual uninstall efforts obscure the root problem or, more often, cause new problems that did not yet exist.

I hear you, though I'm pretty sure you'll agree that one of the ways to eliminate the suspicion of a bug introduced by the *upgrade* from the previous versions is to backup and then completely wipe the configs and do a fresh clean install of the new version. developers almost never have the resources available to test the upgrade process on every possible configuration.

(this thread has now been moved to a Github issue discussion)

[hreuver]

I suppose you did check on double PPA's for OpenCPN.
And you also uninstalled OpenCPN, purged and reinstalled?


Just asking the obvious, sorry for that.

[transmitterdan]

Originally Posted by hreuver

I suppose you did check on double PPA's for OpenCPN.
And you also uninstalled OpenCPN, purged and reinstalled?


Just asking the obvious, sorry for that.

This issue is not related to the installation of OpenCPN. It seems to be the installation of some other library. So uninstalling/reinstalling will not do anything. And it is only reported by one person even though many are using Ubuntu Bionic distribution without problems.