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Old 15-06-2010, 11:33   #1
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Circumnavigator's Dream (CCYD55)

The CCYD55 (CCYD) is a steel schooner built in 1981. The sail plan in the photo has been changed, as the central sail is now furling to facilitate deck usage.
The boat has a retractable hydraulic keel, a separate engine room with all the technical equipment. Perkins 220 hp 6 cyl, recently installed and with approx. 400 hours, Onan 12KW, centralized bilge pump system, aircond,hydraulic system for the powerfull bow truster, hot and cold pressurized water sistem.

Fuel 750 USG for ocean crossing capability, water 750 USG also.

Recently installed CANCLINI standing riggins

Teak deck.

1 BIG owner cabin with king size bed, and dedicated bathroom, 2 double guest cabins with a common head, great saloon and galley, and a crew cabin in the bow usually occupied by sails and equipment.Separate navigation room.High gloss mahogany everywhere. Internal lighting with waterproof diamond shaped ocean style light diffusors.

This is a solid boat built to highest standards with LLOYDS certification.

While hull is in very good condition, the deck plywood under the teak covering needs to be replaced in many areas, expecially at stern. Total winter cover provided.

Located in Italy

Now the photos and asking price, which is 200.000 USD. Complete photo coverage and specifications on request.

Sergio.
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Old 16-06-2010, 09:11   #2
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:34   #3
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Well, guys, I am really determined to sell this boat, and transition to a 37' catamaran for retirement years.
I notice that there is very little interest, so I would like to get from you some suggestions on reasons for that.

Is the boat to old?
Is the price to high?
Is it the fact that it is located in Italy?
Is it to big?
Yard not so known?
Other reasons?

I'll be gratefull for all suggestions.
Sergio
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:53   #4
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Well, guys, I am really determined to sell this boat, and transition to a 37' catamaran for retirement years.
I notice that there is very little interest, so I would like to get from you some suggestions on reasons for that.

Is the boat to old?
Is the price to high?
Is it the fact that it is located in Italy?
Is it to big?
Yard not so known?
Other reasons?

I'll be gratefull for all suggestions.
Sergio

Is the boat to old? - NO.
Is the price to high? - too high for me!
Is it the fact that it is located in Italy? - yes i am in the states
Is it to big? - yes (maintenance/storage costs and need for crew)
Yard not so known? - N/A
Other reasons? - possibly the deck issues.
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Old 04-07-2010, 12:58   #5
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Sergio, If I was trying to sell what looks like King Fahid's yacht, I would find a broker knowledgable in that niche and not try to sell it myself on the internet. Just a suggestion.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:05   #6
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agree with Drew13440. He will also be able to price it right and remove a lot of emotional out of the sale. I personally try to avoid buying directly from sellers for those reasons.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:18   #7
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The deck repairs are going to be very expensive, so that would clearly be an issue if I were considering the boat.

But it's a gorgeous boat, for the right buyer (not me).
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:32   #8
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Also, as price increases, the number of possible buyers I think decreases...especially ones that are willing to buy directly from an owner
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:35   #9
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Understatment, SaltMonkey. In the western world these days there are about seven, maybe nine, guys still standing that can afford to own that thing. You need a broker with their phone numbers to sell it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 13:37   #10
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Hi Sergio and welcome to CF.

The boat looks great and your pricing is very attractive for that size.

Don’t expect many on here to be comfortable though with a large steel boat of that age as rust issues underneath the deck and behind some of that beautiful cabinet work, would need to be determined.

When I made an offer and deposit on my steel Stargazer I flew to the location with an almost 80% conviction that I would reject her because of rust issues.

Being built of Corten steel and well maintained, there was no issue that I or previous surveys had found and I ended up buying something I love.

My advice….Your marketing needs to be broader and more complete with layout and even some past surveys if you have them.

Not sure if this is the best medium for selling your boat, but I would love to hear more of her history and details…see photos and who knows…. perhaps a buyer is lurking.

Good luck!
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Understatment, SaltMonkey. In the western world these days there are about seven, maybe nine, guys still standing that can afford to own that thing. You need a broker with their phone numbers to sell it.
Not so true, as we're not above average cruisers and ours was at a cost at over 200k by the time we finished the first "retro-fit" and went cruising 7 years ago...
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Old 04-07-2010, 14:16   #12
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But for 200k I can buy a new boat
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:41   #13
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Great forum.
Thanks to all for the very usefull replies.
I'll prepare a much more detailed presentation, with descriptions, history,
and photos of the possibly critical details, and a new price request, considering the work to be done under the deck, for which I have a pair of offers.
I would very much prefer to sell it to some experienced and knoleadgeable sailor, capable of evaluating pros and cons.
many here, in my opinion, after more than 1 year reading the forum.

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Sergio, I sold a Transpac 49 a number of years ago with similar deck problems which a survey had identified. I worked with the buyer to pay for a large portion of the repair myself because the vessel was otherwise in great condition. The work was done in a yard we mutually agreed upon. I had set the price to recognize the deficiency but had to reduce it somewhat by paying for 60% of the repair. We both walked away happy. I disagree that you should engage a broker without first trying to sell it yourself. It appears to be the kind of vessel that would appeal to experienced offshore cruisers who know what they are looking for and would probably feel comfortable making judgements on the vessel with a solid survey. In my opinion, the location of the vessel shouldn't be too much of a problem because a shake down cruise in the Med would be a great start to a transatlantic crossing or wherever which I feel would be great for an experienced cruising couple. In addition, you are close to the European market which opens many more potential buyers. i would be interested myself if I were 10 years younger and in better health... good luck!
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