For Sale: Used Fire Hose for Chafing Equipment

[bstreep]

We have a combination of firehose and sunbrella for anti-chafing. For the above reasons, the firehose concerns me. For those in big cities, the firehose in high rise buildings has to be replaced every few years - and that's where ours came from.

[capngeo]

I can get it as well, but only for a few weeks each spring

[cburger]

My dock lines are all run through fire hose as chaffing gear. My fire chief drove to my house and dropped off a thirty foot roll.

[Rakuflames]

Originally Posted by zeehag

i have used in san diego in conditions wherein 90+mph winds were recorded without problems. no sweat--i LOVE firehose. is the BEST thing i have found for antichafe gear.
wish i could find some here in mexico....

The difference between 90+ winds and a hurricane is in the duration. Where these melted lines occurred they had the full brunt of the storm and the chafing went on and on for many hours. I would only worry in something like a hurricane. And of course a lot of people don't really have to worry about that.

[sic5y360]

Originally Posted by Natche

JRM,

I hadn't thought about that and I appreciate your
input. I just think it is a sad reflection on society when you
have to think first about what the public might misperceive
before one does anything.
Used fire hose can be attained at public auctions,
on ebay, Craigslist or any number of places. There is
Actually a company in England, I believe, that takes used,
non operational fire hose and turns it into belts, purses
and other stuff.

I was 17 and working in a shoe warehouse. The returns would come in, a lady would punch a hole in the leather, throw one shoe in one box (A) and the other shoe in another box (B). Box A went to the dump this month and box B went to the dump the next month. Well, there was a brilliant and beautiful pair of cowboy boots, just my size. I even asked her if I could try them on. (duh) So at break, I took the boots out of the respective boxes (garbage right?) and stashed them. Of course, she was watching me and squealed whereupon I was fired for "stealing"

[zeehag]

Originally Posted by Rakuflames

The difference between 90+ winds and a hurricane is in the duration. Where these melted lines occurred they had the full brunt of the storm and the chafing went on and on for many hours. I would only worry in something like a hurricane. And of course a lot of people don't really have to worry about that.

dahlingk...pnw storms are cyclonic, , once they reach san diego, are as good as hurrycames, but sans name. they last for a coupla days. donot think hurrycames are the be all an dend all for storm quality. research before speaking. btdt for each.
firehose works just fine and dandy as antichafe for duration of any storm i have witnessed and experienced. and for many days of them. i have noticed zero problem with my 3/4 inch an d7/8 inch lines--3 strand, thankyou, with firehose used as antichafe, now over the period of over 20 years.

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by Rakuflames

They found that lines that had non-waterproof chafe guards fared better. It was the insurance industry's conclusion that the rain water (and splashing salt water of course) cooled the lines and kept them from getting so hot they could melt.

The problem with this is that I don't know what there is that isn't waterproof but that could be an effective chafe guard for that length of period. I'm considering replacing my cleats and mounting the in such a way that they won't chafe, but that's not always completely possible.

I'm no expert o this, but I know the research I just described exists.

Yup, work heating is real. Mostly, a factor on larger boats with lines above 3/4-inch and up (smaller lines can air-cool).
Sail Delmarva: Can Nylon Anchor Rope be Melted by a Severe Cycling Load ? Myth Plausible.
http://www.bethandevans.com/pdf/dashew-right-rode.pdf

Most of the chafe guards on the market are NOT water proof.
Chafe Guards (Taylor Made) - Chafe Gear & Snubbers
Sail Delmarva: Anti-Chafe Gear
Davis 395 Removable Chafe Guard - Chafe Guards-Snubbers by Discount Marine Supplies

This one looks like it's more to protect bright work.
https://www.capehatterasmarine.com/i...y&Product_ID=4

The PVC hose-types are, but they rub, are stiff, and make no sense to me.
Taylor Made Products -- Dock Products

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by Tripod

Welcome aboard Natche.

Our marina gives away in small quanities as needed and if you ask, with the lining stripped out, clean, and ready to use. They can do this because it's a municiple marina and the city fire dept gives them as much as they want. We're lucky, but in most areas there may be a market. Not sure what a fair price would be, but a few bucks for an 18 inch piece ready to use would probably be about right . . . but like callmecrazy said, much more if it was packaged nice and had "marine" on the label somewhere.

Sounds brilliant. Proactive damage prevention.

But would they use it? A post showing stupid tie-ups.
Sail Delmarva: Rope Work

[s/v 'Faith']

I have a roll of about 25' of 3" to replace what I use now. The really nice stuff to use is the old 1 1/2" hose you hardly ever find.

The smaller stuff (1"?, 1.5"?) would be really nice to have.

[callmecrazy]

Originally Posted by thinwater

Sounds brilliant. Proactive damage prevention.

But would they use it? A post showing stupid tie-ups.
Sail Delmarva: Rope Work

I use it! The day before Hurricane Irene came through, I ran out and bought some flexible electrical conduit. Worked perfectly for the storm. This was in an exceptionally rolly marina to begin with, and for about 5 hours durring the storm the water was over the breakwall and the whole marina was about 2' away from floating free...so it was definitely well tested. I've been using it ever since

It's not 'breathable' but i think it fits loosely enough to allow moisture and air to get through in most cases. No sign of wear in the lines yet using 5/8" 3-strand nylon.

I like the idea of fire hose, and I probably would have gotten that if I had thought of it sooner. But I suspect this stuff will outlast several sets of docklines

[sctpc]

I cut it down the middle and lashed it to the Tender, there is no rub marks on my deck. Just one more use.
I must admit I prefer Clear plastic Pipe so I cccan see chafe.

[Seafarer24]

I use it for my snubber. It goes from the eye at the cleat all the way to where the rope joins together in a V. I gave a roll of this to one of the guys in my anchorage and it has been slowly appearing on other's boats as well now. Still have two more rolls sitting around.

Never heard about stripping the inner layer out!

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by sctpc

I cut it down the middle and lashed it to the Tender, there is no rub marks on my deck. Just one more use.
I must admit I prefer Clear plastic Pipe so I cccan see chafe.

Have you ever seen chafe through the tubing? If yes, then the tubing is the problem. I've used webbing chafing gear and never had any chafe in 20+ years. My lines typically last 10+ years, and the area under the gear is still new. There should be zero wear.

You can slide webbing gear up to look, but after you do this a few times you'll quit. No wear.

[sctpc]

Originally Posted by thinwater

Have you ever seen chafe through the tubing? If yes, then the tubing is the problem. I've used webbing chafing gear and never had any chafe in 20+ years. My lines typically last 10+ years, and the area under the gear is still new. There should be zero wear.

You can slide webbing gear up to look, but after you do this a few times you'll quit. No wear.

No never, I also didn't, knock webbing I just never thought to use it

[thinwater]

Originally Posted by sctpc

No never, I also didn't, knock webbing I just never thought to use it

Just wondered, actually. I've seen heavy hose that rubbed and chaffed the line at the edges, but I'd not noticed that soft of wear on the lighter stuff.

The thing I like about well-fitted webbing is that it it not stiff and is easy to slide into the chocks every time. The fire hose looks a bit cumbersome, though.